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Upgrade to 10.5 Operating system

My system is operating on 10.4.11. All new software and misc. are now requiring 10.5 or greater. I am computer literate but don't know how to go about this. Can It be downloaded? Can I do it myself? Apparently, I live in nowhere land and can't find a trained Mac servicer. SW Florida - Cape Coral...

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What kind of Mac do you have? Do you know if it is Intel or PowerPC based?

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Q.#1: Based on the comment posted 17 hours ago by 'Calvetti' if I'm reading it correctly I can upgrade to Leopard. But am I reading it right? Apparently my system does not have an Intel processor.

I have an iMac G5 (2004?) | 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 | currently running 10.4.11...

If there is a disk to upgrade "my" system could you please supply the url? I've only located the 'Box Set' on the Apple site, but the requirements indicate Intel.

Q#2: Will I loose any files?

Q#3: If I can and do upgrade will all my software still run or do I have to upgrade all of that too? Ill, photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, word, excel, powerpoint etc.

This whole quest started when I wanted to get a camera for 'Skype' and the Intuit 'Quickbooks' (for Mac)...

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Call the Apple store and ask for a sales rep. Explain you have a PPC G5 iMac and want to upgrade to Leopard. The rep should help you achieve your goal. Good luck. Ralph

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Forgot to give you the number. 1-800-MY-APPLE. Ralph

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First, a giant thank you to you all. I think I get it - although very confusing because you're all debating the facts. From what I've learned thru the muck of conflicting info, is that I need to purchase the full-install version of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. So the Answer to my Q#1 was answered... Let's explore my Q#2... will I loose files? I managed to find an Auth. Mac Tech locally, but the house call is pricey - he did indicate he would back-up everything before hand and do a diagnostic... then the sales pitch of course. If I do this MYSELF... Do I need to back up my entire system and all my files? I run two businesses out of my home and my files are ultra important! So... should I do an entire back-up before I "simply insert the DVD and double-click the Install Mac OS X icon"? Could it be that simplistic? Your wisdom and guidance is needed on this question the most! My Q3# was answered... I understand all my current software will work with 10.5.

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My answer is from experience. I do this for a living, for over 25 years now. I don't just read about it. Your G5 processor machine can be upgraded to 10.5. You may then download the updates directly from Apple for free using the "Software Update" just under the Apple in the upper left hand corner of your screen to take it to 10.5.8. There is a difference between "Upgrade and update". The Upgrades are paid and the updates are free. I don't remember a time when Apple didn't provide for a cheaper upgrade from the previous system to the next, i.e. 10.2 to 10.3 or 10.4 to 10.5. You can purchase a Full Installation that requires no previous system on your hard drive. The Apple Store does not seem to be selling the 10.5 anymore (they aren't listed but Ralph say you can call to get it). But for example, you can go here: http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=OS... to see the price difference between a System upgrade at $26 or the full installation at $169.00. When doing a Upgrade from a previous system, it is advisable to do a "Archive and install" to retain proof that you have the previous system so the disk will work again should you have to do a reinstall. Although the Apple store isn't selling the 10.5 disks anymore they may be found on eBay. Go to eBay and do a search for "OSX 10.5 upgrade" I saw two listed tonight for $66.00. Do not buy the gray disks as they are only for specific machines. A upgrade disk may say "Upgrade" on it or "CPU Drop in", or may say nothing. Get the part number of the disk and do a web search to insure what it is. The "Full Install" disk scan be found as "OSX 10.5 Retail". You'll find a lot more of those at a higher price. A brand new Retail version can be had at FastMac http://store.fastmac.com/product_info.ph... for $179.95. Please note that once you upgrade to 10.5, the classic 9.2 system option will no longer be available. As for 10.6, you must have a "Intel processor" Mac to install it. I hope this clarifies your options.

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The "Wired" article, on the possible upgrade to 10.6 from 10.4, was picked up from a article in the Wall Street Journal, published on 8-27-09. I have emailed WALTER S. MOSSBERG, at the Wall Street Journal, the author of this article, requesting that he confirm his source. I'll post what I get. He may possibly reply himself, here.

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I highly doubt mosspuppett will reply. I also highly doubt he actually does anything but write as paid. Sources such as macworld or engadget actually have labs and do testing.

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Another downvote rab? Here's the problem. Your source is Walter Mossberg a writer for the Wall Street Journal. He has no lab. You didn't quote a source such as macworld or engadet. If you even bothered the read the article that Mossberg wrote, he stated, all he did was one upgrade from system 10.5 to 10.6 from a pre-release copy of the 10.6 upgrade disk. He only heard from an unnamed source at Apple that the 10.4 to 10.6 upgrade was possible. No one here or anyplace else that you have quoted has ever done it. Yet you delete my answer because it conflicts with a writer who does not do this for a living. I've done about 40 upgrades of the 10.5 software. Just who do think the expert is? How many have you done? Where does the audacity to delete my answer come from? The real Mac experts are the ones who do it every day for a living. They are people like myself, Ben Eisenman, mactech and rdkl. Writers for the Wall Street Journal only report what they've heard, and this one didn't even give his source

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I don't discuss my sources. But the source was excellent.

Walt

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Walt Mossberg

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mossberg@wsj.com

allthingsd.com <http://allthingsd.com>

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Can I respectfully ask that we all delete our comments on this answer? This flame war is not helping anyone- all we are doing is trying to justify our own positions. :)

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If you have an Original iMac (1998-1999) you can run a maximum Of 10.3.9 panther. If you have an iMac G3 or G4 800Mhz or slower) you can only run tiger 10.4.11. If you have any iMac made after that, you can run leopard. If you have an intel iMac (2007 or later), you can run snow leopard.

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Nice comprehensive iMac listing...

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I purchased a new copy of 10.5.6 from the Apple store online for $129 plus tax. Working fine in my new to me Powermac G5. I checked out Apple because of the outragous prices on ebay. Ralph

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Make sure when you talk to the clerk he understands you have a PPC and want 10.5 amd they will sell it to you. Ralph

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For what it is worth rj713 is the best way to do this. 10.4 CAN NOT be updated to 10.5 from the updater under the apple, and CAN NOT use 10.6 because yours is NOT an Intel Processor. Go with RJ713 on this one and forget the confusion of the rest of these answers. Good luck.

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Your iMac should take 10.5, but it's an upgrade you'll have to purchase. Strangely, it's pretty pricey. You'll need the full retail installation, which can be found in the eBay listings here.

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  1. Yep, you should be able to upgrade to Leopard just fine. It won't take the latest version, which is 10.6, but 10.5 should run normally.
  2. Provided you choose to "Upgrade" rather than erase and install, all your files should be fine.
  3. I think that all the apps you've mentioned above should work. The only kind of applications that 10.5 breaks are those that are written for OS9. Chances are, you were not using the Classic environment, so this shouldn't be a big deal.

As per where to get the discs, I'd try the solution that Ralph has given- that seems to be the cheapest way.

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Josh, Apple sells 10.5.6 for the original price of $129. I know this because I just purchased it from them and am running it on my G5 powermac now. Ralph

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Nice! I did not know that Apple still sold 10.5. That's good to know. If you put that in answer, I'll upvote it... :)

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Where does apple sell it? That's good to know.

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rj I couldn't find that on Apples site. The 10.5 upgrade disk from 10.4 (not the full version) can be found on eBay for about $50. I have two of these.

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I install a version of Safari 6.1.6 is not compatible with os x 10.5.1 and I have no internet browser how do I put it back or can I install the Safari support for version

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Please ask a new question as this really has nothing to do with the post you asked it on.

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