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Replace Void warranty moisture stickers

Hello, I see sites advertising the logic board moisture stickers for the 3Gs. Is the iPhone 4s the same sticker? Anyone know? If they are different, where can one buy them?

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Perhaps as you say Apple might overlook charges on an individual and simply return the device but I believe a website encouraging fraud against the company would find a less forgiving company. Trying to pass water damaged equipment for warranty work is what us "older" folks would call stealing--YMMV.

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I agree, just because you can doesn't mean you should. This site is for legitimate repairs, not falsehoods.

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+ I agree as well. Whatever one wants to do, on ones own time, is ones own business, but we should not promote it.

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+ These are the type of people who try to make the world a better place and I feel a great Friendship for them.

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+ full ack! but hey - even a mediocre tech should see a fluid damage - it could be "cleaned up" and the new stickers won't change anything on that - fluids will leave traces and there is no way to remove everything.

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+ My iPhone is scratched, but i'm going to suck it up if the geniuses say "no", simply put, we will NEVER endorse lying, c'on, even I can tell!

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Just tell your lawyer that you weren't really trying to commit fraud when you changed out the red stickers for white ones and gave it to Apple for warranty work. You just didn't like red stickers. Maybe the judge will buy it. If not, you don't have to worry about voting or being called up for jury duty.

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Mayer, truly, you give Apple way too much credit if you think that their techs are capable of figuring out that a sticker that costs less than a cent is not authentic, and if somehow one is caught, and if they have a ^#&! lawyer, and are criminally tried, the monetary value of Apple's services does not put the crime above the misdemeanor level. I would be very surprised if Apple even tried to press charges, because until the work is completed and returned to the customer the company does not suffer any damages. If super-tech does detect that the sticker is not authentic I'm almost positive the unit would be returned at the customers expense with a note attached explaining why they would not work on a phone that had been tampered with. Nice try, but scare tactics don't work on people who think. Fraud, really? Funny, I've always heard with age comes wisdom...

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Your type of thinking is why our jails are full. What wrong with people who cheat and steal? Do you think there are no repercussions for this type of behavior? This site only exists because of the wisdom of the seniors answering questions and giving of their time and wisdom to help people. Just what are the Wall Street protesters doing? Man are you misnamed.

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The iPhone 4 uses similar water damage detection stickers. They can be easily seen by sliding off the rear panel. I am sure you should be able to find some floating around the net with a HIGH mark up for stickers. Good Luck.

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"floating around the net" heh heh

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You wouldn't try claiming false warranty on anyone that has a repair business either, right?

This is with the intent to defraud someone or some company. Just because the materials are available doesn't mean it's ok. Those stickers have use for other purposes that require liquid notification - not to get freebies.

It's fraud and stealing - regardless if it is ever seen or not.

What you do when someone is not looking is called integrity... Use the site to fix your phone yourself, or buy one you can fix in your budget.

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this is a comment to christian's answer - it was a little bit to long for a comment.

no it's not just you - i've seen a lot of weird people in the past - so, you're not alone! but that didn't make it better or right.

you're telling that you expect the company that produces the device you're using have to do any repair until the warranty runs out - right? so if you drop it, they should replace the broken parts, if you flush it down the toilet, they should repair it also for free...

maybe we should switch to something different:

if you buy a new car - do you expect that they fix it for free if you wrap that car around a tree? - you should do so, that's what you're telling! oh - forgot to bring the "without a question" part into it - to bad..

have you any idea what "warranty" means??

the next thing is about:

"This site exist because someone had a great idea, someone else invested in it, and contributors give their advise and loan their expertise. Are you a senior? Awesome. I'm not, and I've got a lot I can share."

"senior" might be misleading for some people - but hey, you're new - we have a few things that might indicate some kind of skill level.

one thing are the personal "score" in mayer's case it's "only": 85,249 and we have team's - but that's something you could find out when you click on the "users" button

you're saying that you can share a lot - a lot of what ?

sorry, depending on the thing you wrote about fluid damages, it might be some crappy stuff you're sharing -> "The most expensive thing they would have to do is replace a logic board, and that is only if someone plugged it in while it was still soaked. More than likely its just a battery/battery connector issue"

come on - are you serious?

would you use a plugged in/switched on hair dryer in a bathtub (filled with water of course and don't forget to bridge the fuses)

- would you try that ? (in your theory - there won't be any "damage")

so i think that's enough for now

surely - there are more things you wrote that i can't "accept" - but maybe you understand what i was trying to tell you with my little comment.

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@markus weiher,

Bull****, if I am paying all that money for a high end phone I expect it to be able to withstand daily use, phones are made to be carried in the pocket, look it even fits in my pocket was a steve jobbs line,Every other phone I have owned worked for years without a hitch & has never suffered water damage from normal use, *!#* a samsung I own still works after going in the ocean for over a minute 4 years ago.. They should design them to be more robust if they cant stand daily usage.

Get off your high horse & remove your head from up Apples $$@.

Yes its a fact, watchdog featured the faulty sensor issue

Apple should not reject a repair on the stance of water damage from a quick view of the sensors, if disputed it should be sent for further inspection for water damage, just like the ipod policy update.

If the phone was damaged as a fault of my own, yes I have no problems with paying for repair, but when it stops working with no fault of my own & they say water damage after a few months use. no repair, that is just plain wrong

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Look you are all going way overboard with stealing etc etc, Its a well known FACT that thousands of people with faulty iphone 4 are having the repairs turned down because of so called water damage when the phone has not even been in the rain let alone near water to damage it, this has just happened to my sister.

So if you have a faulty iphone & are sending it for repair but know its not been near water but worried about the sensor issue can just make sure they are white when sent for repair, nothing wrong with that, just preventing a huge billion dollar company ripping off the little guys.

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the so called "well known fact" is no fact at all. if the indicator shows a fluid damage than the phone had a fluid damage. it has nothing to do with using the phone in the rain, dropping it into the toilet or what ever.

the "mixture" of humidity, glass and different heat sources (electronics, the sun and getting stuffed in the pocket) will definately be enough to produce a "fluid damage" - not only changing the color of the stickers - no it's enough for a real damage!

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Yes we are entitled, if there is no damage caused by the user or legitimate water damage then it should be repaired through our entitlement to a warranty.

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Garry

Stand up & do it myself, this is what I do with everything I own that stops working, I can never be bothered sending things off & waiting so I always do some research into the problem, find the fix & carry it out.

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Do you really want to go to prison? If you do, then have fun. If you don't, I suggest you look up the term ethics.

Grow up and accept you screwed up. Pay the OOW bill or hope Apple does it as a one time favor.

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You are either ***** OR DEAF, the water sensors on the Phone are all WHITE WHICH MEANS NO WATER damage so no company has the right to refuse repair on those grounds, when I buy i product for the agreed price I expect them to honout there waranty,

I am not saying to replace pink sensors with white ones on a water damaged phone to get a repair or replacement, ho thats wrong as it would be my own fault & I would pay for the repair.

Its the second apple product I have owned & yes I will be jumping off & never going near an apple product again. especially vodafone

Yes it does make a difference as to weather they made £20 or a billion, if they were not making huge profits they would have to treat customers better to build a reputation, companies who treat customers badly from the start dont retain those customers for the future which hinders the companies growth.

Right I want a straight answer from the holier than thou, a iphone that is 4 months old, never been near water or rain, all water sensors are white, never been opened, wont turn on or restore get error 1611, tell me why I am not entitled to a repair under waranty? This is vodafone not apple that say water damage, but how can it be with all white sensors, I am taking it to apple store next week.

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this is a different issue.. I sympathise with your problem. But changing dots isn't right. Nevermind the big company..what about me, the little person with a little job trying to make a little money? So I buy someone's "non water" damaged phone and try to fix it? can I complain that I have been sold false goods...nope! no comeback or reprieve for the little person. This isn't holier than thou..this is being fair!

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btw, vodaphone are talking bs. get the manager. I wish you all the best.

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"a iphone that is 4 months old, never been near water or rain, all water sensors are white, never been opened, wont turn on or restore get error 1611, tell me why I am not entitled to a repair under waranty?" Where does this fit in with replacing the stickers? Read the first line of your answer (BTW I edited the profanity since I also believe it to be wrong to flame people) and take your own advise. You are now going off on a tangent, I believe it is referred to as being out in left field. As to the way Apple treats its customers, check the charts from 4th quarter 05 to 2nd quarter 11 and you will see the growth of this company. If the customer service is as horrific as you make it out to be, it obviously does not impact sales. Kind of odd don't you think? Yes, capitalism is build on this (got to love that system :-) and becoming a son of anarchy by defrauding and cheating will not get anything resolved. Stop buying products, and increasing their profits, of companies you do not like.

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i understand that you are "angry" - but wow - i think it isnt the best idea to "act" like that. i know that many people like the anonymity of the internet - but it has something to do with dignity to "behave" a little bit. if you have a problem with apple products - don't buy them. if you have a problem with an answer here on ifixit - try to deal with it like a civilised human. i can only speak for myself - those "language" things won't "hurt" me at all - if someone goes way to far - i start to hear some old classics from my youth and most of the time it's something like "attitude" from "the misfits" or some lovely songs from "the exploited" - lol. if you want to get help - learn to ask and play by the rules - cheating is not my way of life

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I can think of at least one time in which I needed new stickers and it wasn't to defraud Apple or anyone. I had an iPhone that had no water damage to it at all, but there was a problem with the screen in that the far right side of it had no sensitivity to touch. Amount 1 mm of screen was not touchable and this made texting and even sliding the unlock bar almost impossible.

However, I was lazy in visiting an Apple store and when I finally decided to do so, I had a stroke of bad luck. I dropped the phone in the sink and it became completely submerged. It made all the stickers turn pink and I figured the phone was dead.

I decided to let it dry out for over a week and to my surprise, when I plugged it back in, the phone came on and everything worked!! Except the original screen problem was still there. Now in this case, I couldn't take it to Apple because they would blame the water for the screen problem, so instead, I bought new stickers and replaced the pink ones. Apple replaced the whole phone to fix my screen problem and everything was perfect.

Now is that fraud? I don't think so. In fact, Apple would have been the one screwing me if I hadn't swapped the stickers and they decided not to give me a new phone or fix the original screen problem that had nothing to do with water damage.

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On my wife's iPhone 4 s we have full coverage through Best Buy but this is my story. We can get new phone ftom best buy but we need data from old one some new pictures. Aplle store already replaced phone twice in less then a year. First phone on off button stoped working. Second one right out of the box worked in the store until we got home and discovered that wi-fi doesn't work. Couple months after phone stopped charging its not charger brcause my other phone works . Its a docking connector. I tried to clean it with alcohol didbt work. We went to apple store and they reffused to work on the phone because like they said phone water sensors show signs of partial water damage. I was lmao in the store how can be partial. They opened the phone and they showed me that sticker inside on battery was slightly discolored. Bs . Because i have warranty even for water damage i was intriged by story from Apple i took phone appart put a drop of water on stupid sticker and it went from lightly pink to red i mean red red. And that is not from water that slightly discoloration was from moisture. We charge phones on marble counter that is always cold and while you charging phone gets hot . That hot cold thing created condensation on sticker and trips it. But water doesn't make it light pink water makes it completely red. Those stickers are just excuse for Apple to void warranty . I dont even need it i just need to recover my data - that was surprise they said its against Apple policy bla bla bla like privacy . I give manager a look and ask him is he serious, im right there and i give him my consent to acces private datas... No we dont do that. I was laughing like nuts Are you kiding me... Back to sticker i was thinking about sticker on the docking connector maybe i triped it with alcohol but wait a second what made ibside sticker to discolor ... Moisture like i said full submersion would make sticker red not pinkish ... I pulled my other phone from my pocket and told manager to open this one because i want to see that sticker on working phone and he refused... If they can prove that i droped my phone in water that is ok... But to relay on those two cent stickers for 500 bucks phone thats ridiculous. What happend to that lawsuit over iphone 3...

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Well if your like me something got into my headphone jack (this was before I knew a water indicator sticker was in there) I got the thing that was stuck in my headphone jack and the thing that I got out was white so when I saw that there was something white still in there I kept scratching at it then I noticed it turned red and instantly though oh !@#$ that's a water indicator I bet! And sure enough I googled and found out tthat I had indeed just caused mine to turn red from stratching at the !@#$ white part of the sticker. I was used to having an iphone 3 and only knew of the indicator in the charging end of the phone. So I kinda !@#$%^ myself now and I doubt the people at Apple would believe me cause I'm pretty sure plenty of people come up with excuses as to why their indicator is red.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-NEW-OEM-ORIGI...

This sticker is good, shipping is free, and from what I can tell it is an exact match of the warranty sticker inside an iphone 4. I will add that this sticker will only work for the logic board, and maybe for the headphone jack but you might have to cut it down. As for the strip on the bottom at the power input, you can use a strip of photo paper cut down to size. Put double sided tape down where the strip will go on the phone, and put the photo paper down on that. Use a dark red marker/sharpie to color it red, but make sure you don't press down too hard. If you want to remove any residue left by water/sweat/etc just take the phone completely apart, CAREFULLY remove any warranty stickers still intact, and put all the parts minus the battery in an alcohol bath. When you take them out, lightly tap them to make sure any solids shake off. Clean up anything still visible with an alcohol pad, and make sure that everything is completely dry before you reassemble. I recommend leaving the digitizer out overnight with a fan blowing on it. DON'T use a hair dryer, sensitive electronics do not like heat. Don't freak out if you reassemble, turn it on, and still see some fluid in the screen; it should evaporate out within a day or so of normal use, your body heat alone should get most of it. CAREFULLY put the warranty stickers back on, and you should be good to go.

Now for the "experts"- Marcus, you mean to tell me that you've never had someone plug in a phone that they dropped in the water? I've seen this case more than a few times and I do this for fun. Luckily, most of the time it was a battery short/burst and the damage was minimal. I'll confirm that you would have to be really really electrically ignorant not to know that water+electronics= bad; but on the other hand, someone who takes their phone to work out might not realize a little sweat has creeped in the phone. When they find their phone has turned off they might just think the battery is dead and plug it in to let it charge, causing further damage to the phone. Not really sure how you equated that with throwing a a hair drier into a bath tub. Regardless, the previous example really happened and I really fixed it, so unless you want to tell me that there is a glitch in the matrix and I'm living a lie, mind your own business because I've got this covered. As for the stickers, once the phone is fixed, yeah, I replace them. Why shouldn't I? The phone works, Apple doesn't need to know it ever happened.

All other arguments are invalid to me. If you're naive enough to believe that the world is fair and that people get what they deserve and no company would ever dream of ripping off one of their customers, then we just aren't going to see eye to eye on this. Apple rips people off, even small businesses and repair shops try to pull one over on people who aren't tech-savvy enough to know they are being grossly overcharged. They ripped me off once, and before they did it again I got wise and started doing my own repairs. I'm not sure what they've done to earn your fierce loyalty, but they don't have mine. If you call me a cheat and try to make this a moral issue, I'll just tell you that "morals are a luxury of the rich," that are used to manipulate you into staying in line. Nothing is ever black and white, wrong or right. Its all a matter of perspective. If getting taken advantage of makes you feel good then keep on truckin. I however, don't have a submission fetish, so I'll do as I please.

P.S. please quit saying someone will go to jail if they use these. That's just a straight up lie, and not even a feasible one.

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I've found them on Ebay and just ordered a few. While troubleshooting my phone for a non-water damage issue I accidentally damaged that little white sticker. Its still white, but kinda mangled. I'll let you know when they come in if they're any good.

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well done you! I'm not rich, I don't have many luxuries. In fact life is pretty ^#$#. But I do know that your attitude stinks. A company is all about profit and if you want to own what they sell then you pay the money they ask. If you bought their product at the agreed price, knowing it could only be serviced by an apple approved tech then you have no right to claim you've been ripped off. I'm not loyal to apple, I have no "submission" fetish. What I do have is a good idea about right, wrong, fair and unfair. You don't.

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Sorry, and maybe this is just me, but if I pay $400-$600 for a piece of equipment I expect Apple to work on it until the warranty runs out. In my opinion, these stickers shouldn't be on the phones in the first place. Their only purpose is to get Apple out of a little hard work. The most expensive thing they would have to do is replace a logic board, and that is only if someone plugged it in while it was still soaked. More than likely its just a battery/battery connector issue.

Mayer- I called you out for lying, and in response you told more lies. The jails are not full. This is not cheating or stealing, this is getting Apple to do work they should do without question in the first place (side note, Craftsman is an excellent company. I can buy a set of tools, throw them in a wood-chipper, and take them back to Sears for a replacement set, no questions asked. In my opinion, that is an example of a good company). I know there are repercussions for this kind of behavior. I know them to be quite mild as well, and don't quite tip my scales considering risk vs. reward. This site exist because someone had a great idea, someone else invested in it, and contributors give their advise and loan their expertise. Are you a senior? Awesome. I'm not, and I've got a lot I can share.

Then you add some tidbit comparing me to the modern hippies on wall street. I'll have you know that I'm debt free, have a great job as a biomedical equipment technician, and think that if you want to live well you should live within your means. The only thing I have in common with those guys is, well, nothing.

And then you tell me my mother misnamed me. You sir, do not know me, and are judging me based on a comment I made defending someone else's legitimate question. You do not have ground to stand on with all the dirt you are throwing.

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By your reasoning if I run my car without oil the maker should replace the motor for free. I think not. -

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Christian, if you want to give good sound, fair and free advice that's great. We are ALL telling you that your advice is not fair, it is cheating. If it were only one of us who thought this then perhaps you could accuse one of us of being a fool. When you've got a whole group telling you that changing stickers when you have voided your warranty is wrong, then maybe you should do a little rethink? The example of the car is the best here to demonstrate. A warranty is not a get out of repair free card..look after your equipment and when it is under warranty don't repair it yourself!

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I agree with markus. I want to add that the "billion dollar company versus the little guy" argument is garbage. Stand up for yourself and fix the phone yourself (directed to Gibbs and others who feel they are entitled). Would it make a difference if they had a $20 profit last quarter? You would probably find another way to rationalize your WRONG behavior. Since you believe Apple is bad, why don't you jump off the bandwagon and get another product that has more water resistance?

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Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one. --Chinese Proverb Try to maintain a bit of integrity. I do not think that anyone here can tell you what to do or what not to do. You are what you are and your actions show your character. Personally, I think it is wrong to advertise and promote dishonesty.

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Alright guys, this has been fun. I'm going to quit watching this since the problem should be solved and leave you with the song of my people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsDdIByh...

Have a great day!

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