Introduction

Use this guide to replace the battery in your Samsung Galaxy S6.

Before disassembling your phone, discharge the battery below 25%. A charged lithium-ion battery can catch fire and/or explode if accidentally punctured.

If your battery is swollen, do not heat your phone. If needed, you can use a dropper or syringe to inject isopropyl alcohol (90+%) around the edges of the back cover to weaken the adhesive. Swollen batteries can be very dangerous, so wear eye protection and exercise due caution, or take it to a professional if you're not sure how to proceed.

This guide involves removing the rear glass. Removing the rear glass destroys the adhesive holding it in place. Follow this guide to reinstall the rear glass.

Insert a paper clip or SIM eject tool into the hole in the SIM card slot on the power button side of the phone.
  • Insert a paper clip or SIM eject tool into the hole in the SIM card slot on the power button side of the phone.

  • Press to eject the SIM card tray.

    • Don't press too hard or you may damage the SIM card tray.

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Remove the SIM card tray from the phone.
  • Remove the SIM card tray from the phone.

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  • We recommend that you clean your microwave before proceeding, as any nasty gunk on the bottom may end up stuck to the iOpener.

  • Place the iOpener in the center of the microwave.

    • For carousel microwaves: Make sure the plate spins freely. If your iOpener gets stuck, it may overheat and burn.

which temperature must be used for heating? Thx

fbarletta - Reply

I found you need to be very patient when using the iOpener. It's worth taking your time, giving the heat time to work on the glue. When I finally got the battery out, there were some strips of glue left behind that I just cleaned off with some isopropanol before installing the new battery.

By the way, I had to run the iOpener for longer in my microwave for it to get hot enough. When it was too hot to touch, I figured it was hot enough for the batteries.

Fredrik -

I didn't find this to be as hard as I had built it up in my mind to be; HOWEVER, saying that I need to say years ago I was the local Nokia service center in my town. But many years ago right after they got rid of analog times. Yeah. A classic installer/repairer mistake when starting something they haven't fixed or installed before is picking up the instructions, flipping through them; maybe even reading a section that is new-then tossing the instructions over the shoulder. "I got this." This usually comes right before something major gets broke. And I can tell you when you try to do it yourself and then mess it up horribly then take it to the repair shop. Well we called that "I can do it myself" syndrome and charged extra to put back together what they brought in in the box. Now knowing all this - I can't stress this enough because I am stupid, stupid, stupid. COVER YOUR SCREEN IN CLEAR BOXING TAPE AND READ ALL THE INSTRUCTION BELOW THROUGH TO THE END BEFORE EVEN ATTEMPTING THIS FIX. Take my advise.

windizy - Reply

I didn't have an iOpener, so I used a wheat type heat bag. If you do this though, make sure you put a layer of plastic between your Mac and the bag, or you'll get condensation in places you don't want it.

Martin Gray - Reply

I started out using the iOpener but switched to my wife's hairdryer. A heat gun or hair dryer proved to be much more convenient and is a time saviour. You can heat more and the glue becomes more fluid make the next steps with the opening picks much easier

Jan Van Puymbroeck - Reply

Use a hair dryer! Watch this vid: https://youtu.be/16GkvjVyOJA It is much easier to do if you heat it from the other side.

Fletcher Carpenter - Reply

I wonder how many people actually wrapped in their iPhone into iOpener and put this "sandwich" into microwave??

putinaspiliponis - Reply

I know this is obvious, but backup your iPad with iTunes before you start. I'd also turn off your passcode if you have one.

Laurie Higgins - Reply

Ther first time you heat up the iOpener for this repair when its room temperature I had to heat it up for more than 30 seconds. I remember I had to heat it up for around 45 seconds. However, after that when you need to reheat it again during the repair 30 seconds will be enough.

Yousef Ghalib - Reply

I've been with Samsung for 8 years now!! Never did i have a case on any of my phones My Samsung 8 is 2 months old the case protector around the edge pop off and broke my phone it's like someone put a bullet hole in it

Sherry Carew - Reply

Not everybody has a microwave. You need to state how long and at what temperature in a conventional oven.

Esmond Pitt - Reply

Hi, the microware have multiple power 1 to 9, what must be used ?

Regards,

Cedric

Cedric VINCENT - Reply

  • Heat the iOpener for thirty seconds.

  • Throughout the repair procedure, as the iOpener cools, reheat it in the microwave for an additional thirty seconds at a time.

  • Be careful not to overheat the iOpener during the repair. Overheating may cause the iOpener to burst.

  • Never touch the iOpener if it appears swollen.

  • If the iOpener is still too hot in the middle to touch, continue using it while waiting for it to cool down some more before reheating. A properly heated iOpener should stay warm for up to 10 minutes.

May I know the temperate limit about heating iOpener? (maximum 150 degrees Celsius?) thx so much.

yamayhuang - Reply

I had to heat mine up for more than 30 seconds. After 30 seconds on high it was only warm. It had to keep trying different times and checking it until it got hot. I think the initial time that I put it in for was over a minute.

whale13 - Reply

DO NOT USE IN NON ROTATING MICROWAVE! It will pop a hole. I had it in for 45 seconds the first time. It wasn't very hot inside and I saw it started to leak on the paper towel I put under it. Just a fair bit of advice. I think I will just stick with the heat gun. Loud but useful.

Alex Jackson - Reply

I don't own a microwave.

mdanihy - Reply

Its again waterproof when you change iphone 7 battery?

Jon - Reply

I don't have a microwave???

Joe Blow - Reply

30 sec at which equivalent watts setting and what temperature does iOpener heats up to for 30 secs. Only just bought it so needs info before using it. Thanks

Sam Stieg - Reply

can i use just ordinary microwave???

juneseok kwon - Reply

If I don't have a microwave then I try to use hot air gun so how many munuts i want to heat ?

Mohideen Rifay - Reply

I heated mine up for 30 seconds, tested, then again for 30 seconds. It felt adequately hot. Leaving it on the left side, per the instruction, for a minute did not loosen the adhesive. I ended up pulling the suction cup hard enough to shadder the old screen. Moral of the story, I don't think it gets hot enough safely to have an affect.

Travis Dixon - Reply

There is a clear problem here with the heating part using the iopener things....no details are given. Whoever is testing them needs to make it clear - What temperature does it need to be? And for which phone models, because they differ in what's needed. It's only £10-15 for a laser guided temp sensor unit, and the designers/repairers should have one of those already for doing these kinds of repairs. Explaining half a repair, is worse than not explaining at all :-(

assortedrubbish - Reply

I used a hot water bottle, works well as it covers the whole screen and stays hot for longer.

dave - Reply

If I may suggest include your microwave wattage so people can get an idea on time for there own

Patrick Storey - Reply

I ended up using a hair dryer. That iOpener thing took forever.

mark fitzgerald - Reply

30 seconds sure isn’t cutting it… 45 didn’t get the screen of my iPad air 2 to budge either… even after resting on the ipad for 4 minutes.

60 seconds in the microwave, the iOpener burst.

I’ll get a new one and try once more with heating it 45 seconds and repeat that for 30 minutes like others have said here. If that doesn’t work it’ll have to be the heat gun.

K

Karl Marble - Reply

  • Remove the iOpener from the microwave, holding it by one of the two flat ends to avoid the hot center.

  • The iOpener will be very hot, so be careful when handling it. Use an oven mitt if necessary.

Will a hair dryer work for heating the glass?

Me berg - Reply

Yes, as does a heat gun.

anonymous 4602 - Reply

I did this repair. I used a hair dryer, I think it works better: gets very hot fast.

Cobus de Beer - Reply

  • Opening your phone will compromise its waterproof seals. Have replacement adhesive ready before you proceed, or take care to avoid liquid exposure if you reassemble your phone without replacing the adhesive.

  • If your glass is shattered, put packing tape over the entire panel to hold it together during the removal process.

  • Lay the heated iOpener over the rear panel for about two minutes to loosen the adhesive around the edge of the glass.

    • You may need to reheat and reapply the iOpener several times to get the phone warm enough. Follow the iOpener instructions to avoid overheating.

  • Shift the iOpener to heat the remaining section of the panel for another two minutes.

  • A hair dryer, heat gun, or hot plate may also be used, but be careful not to overheat the phone—the OLED display and internal battery are both susceptible to heat damage.

are there any option out there that allows you to heat the adhesive outdoors without any power plug?

Brotan Store - Reply

There's a star in the center of our solar system, you could try that.

John Joiner -

the way we do it at Get it fixed cellphone repair calgary is with a heat gun, wich is way easier than this, make sure to wear some gloves and dont worry to use to much heat as long as you point just to the back of the phone, (the back panel is thick enough to protect the logic board from over heat) instead of the usual blue plastic piece i sugest to use the thinnest metal razor knife and a business card so you can insert the business card and move it all around the frame, those blue plastic things are way too thick that will break the glass panel if you apply to much pressure

get it fixed - Reply

After did that with my own heat pad, the white paint got ripped off but luckily glass back cover did not break. So I scratched all white part of the back cover and now its all transparent.

Jae Chung - Reply

I used a purpose built heating device at 100 degree celsius. Lower temperatures didn't work.

ken - Reply

  • Once the rear glass is hot to the touch, apply a suction cup near the bottom edge of the glass.

  • Lift on the suction cup to create a small gap underneath the rear glass, and insert an opening pick into the gap.

  • Optionally, once the pick is inserted, you can add a few drops of isopropyl alcohol into the gap to help weaken the adhesive in the following steps.

If the rear screen is cracked/smashed, you will not be able to use a suction cup to remove it. The suction could would not seal because of the cracks. I tried masking tape, 3M shiny HVAC tape, and others, and the suction could would not seal to those surfaces either.

I ended up using the sharp point of the smudger to remove some shards of glass to get underneath the cover to leverage it up and out. Definitely use gloves and safety glasses if you have to do this.

dougpender - Reply

Thank you for your comment. I needed to see this particular instance of what to do when the back cover was cracked. I was going to try to suction it with tape covering it. This saved me some heartache. You're an angel!!

Jessie Brooks -

  • Slide the pick along the bottom edge of the phone to slice through the adhesive securing the rear glass.

  • Afterward, it may help to leave the pick in place and grab a second pick as you proceed to the next step. Leaving the pick inserted can help prevent the glue you just separated from re-adhering.

  • Re-heat the rear glass as needed to prevent the glue from cooling and hardening.

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  • Repeat the heating and cutting procedure for the remaining three sides of the phone.

  • Leave an opening pick under each edge to prevent the adhesive from resealing.

At this stage I didn’t use a plastic pick as I think they are too thick and will crack a screen that’s not already cracked. I used a stainless steel

I sesame blade which does a much better job of cutting through the adhesive. Just be careful not to insert it in too far. I sometimes put a mark on my blade to ensure it doesn’t go in too far.

Wayne Lyell - Reply

  • Use an opening pick to slice through any remaining adhesive.

  • Remove the rear glass.

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  • Use tweezers to peel away any remaining adhesive from both the rear glass and the phone's chassis.

  • Then, clean the adhesion areas with high concentration isopropyl alcohol (at least 90%) and a lint-free cloth. Swipe in one direction only, not back and forth. This will help prep the surface for the new adhesive.

  • Follow this guide to reinstall the rear glass.

You should note that the adhesive strip may need to be fully removed from the frame in order to proceed with repairs. The adhesive on my phone covered all of the screws exposed in the next step.

Sean Cruz - Reply

  • Remove the thirteen 3.5mm Phillips #00 screws securing the midframe to the phone.

Make sure you do not mix up these thirteen screws with a hidden 14th screw under the mid-frame chassis, on the left side of the headphone port, on daughter-board. This 14th screw is shorter than the other screws, so make sure you do not replace it with one of the longer screws. It will push up against the front glass and lift it away from the adhesive.

David Whyte - Reply

  • Firmly grasp the edge of the midframe assembly.

  • Lift up on the midframe assembly while pushing down on the battery to separate the midframe assembly from the rest of the phone.

    • While lifting the midframe, be careful to avoid snagging it on the audio jack or charging port.

  • You may need to heat and apply an iOpener to the edges of the display to soften the display adhesive if midframe separation is difficult.

FIRMLY GRASP IT! - Patrick

Armen Orbelyan - Reply

Bei diesem Schritt sicher sein, dass SIM Card Fach entfernt ist!

zikal - Reply

I found the glue still very sticky here, i had to go around with my picks to free it, its very stuck with a UK version, beware!!

databeat1 - Reply

I damaged my screen here a bit, be careful not too slide your pick between the digitizer and the screen.

Anton -

i suggest to apply heat on the corners of the front screen to lose the adhesive a lil bit and push from the bottom back of the phone right where the wireless charger is because of the charging port

get it fixed - Reply

When grabbing from the bottom, you fun the risk of damaging the charging port and headphone jack. I would suggest starting from the top. This is because the two ports at the bottom slide down into the frame. There is also adhesive that will give you a little resistance.

Alex Philip - Reply

Step 18 is not correct, you have to start from the top. You can damage the charge port

Daniel Yaben - Reply

On mine the adhesive actually tore away part of the colored film on the back of the screen glass rather than separating from it. I’m guessing applying heat to the screen corners first would help avoid this (I didn’t). https://imgur.com/a/V7vZQ

Brian Hardie - Reply

  • Lift the midframe assembly up to separate it from the rest of the phone.

what do the numbers ZF-N2 AS WELL AS (F13) AT THE END OF THE MODEL NUMBER, THEN THERE IS REV 5-1-C W G 15221............... WHAT ALL HAS TO MATCH WHEN REPLACING THE MID FRAME.

mike gentry - Reply

  • Use the flat end of the spudger to disconnect the battery connector from its socket on the motherboard.

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  • Insert a plastic opening pick between the case and the battery.

    • Be careful to keep the pick as flat as possible to avoid bending the battery, which may damage it and cause it to release dangerous chemicals.

  • Push the pick further in to separate the battery from the phone.

    • If the battery is too strongly adhered for the opening pick, place a warm iOpener over the battery to loosen the adhesive.

    • Alternatively, apply some isopropyl alcohol under each corner of the battery and allow it to penetrate for several minutes to help weaken the adhesive.

    • Do not pry against the motherboard or you may damage the phone.

Do you have to remove the battery to remove the motherboard? I just need to remove the motherboard for soldering.

Jake - Reply

No, it is not necessary to remove the battery.

cityzen -

However, it makes it easier to handle the phone with the battery taken off.

Ben -

I used a trick from a different phone tear down, but it really helps, slip a length of dental floss under the top edge of the battery, then with a back and forth action of the floss, you can slice through the adhesive and easily remove the battery, worked great on this phone.

danechapman - Reply

Dude that's awesome, wish someone would have mentioned this a long time ago. Battery removal can be a pain. Defiantly going to try that sometime soon!

Felix Robinson -

Awesome. Thanks!!!

Gary Vaughan Jr - Reply

  • Remove the battery from the phone.

  • Do not reuse the battery after it has been removed, as doing so is a potential safety hazard. Replace it with a new battery.

  • To install a new battery:

    • Remove any remaining adhesive from the phone, and clean the glued areas with isopropyl alcohol and a lint-free cloth.

    • Secure the new battery with pre-cut adhesive or double-sided adhesive tape. In order to position it correctly, apply the new adhesive into the phone, not directly onto the battery. The adhesive should go around the perimeter of the battery compartment, but not in the rectangular cutout in the center (which is actually the back side of the display).

    • Press the battery firmly into place for 5-10 seconds.

Question!? If the screen is barley cracked at the coner, (2cm) of the phone, would it shatter thru this process!? Please let me know ASAP!?

dominiquem1991 - Reply

again, mine a UK version was very sticky beware!!

databeat1 - Reply

Yes the UK version is very well glued in. I recommend using a flat metal spudger and pushing it in from the bottom right side and then continue doing the same working up. This method seems to be the safest and only takes a minute or two

martywild10 -

I used a credit card and a bit of hair dryer to ease it out.

adele - Reply

Conclusion

To reassemble your device, follow these instructions in reverse order. When reinstalling the rear glass, refer to the rear glass adhesive replacement guide.

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If I had known that replacing the battery was this complicated I would have never bought Galaxy s6.

barb kory - Reply

Mcgyver variation: guitar pick, safety pin, hair dryer, and a west marine camera mount kit's suction cup. got it.

devcyr3n - Reply

Do ya THINK this process MIGHT void your warranty?

peteyfurlong - Reply

weird question , if its under warranty , why would anyone go thru so much trouble just to replace a %#*@ battery

limz555 -

Samsung warrenties are rubbish. Only had the phone 6 months and the charger point broke but bacause my phone had a small crack on it they voided the warrenty and wanted me to pay nearly £200 to replace the screen and back!!!! Now the battery has gone completely- phone is only 8 months old and no use. Safe to say won't be having a Samsung again.

Cathy Vickers -

In the United States it's actually against the law to void someone's warranty because they opened their device up, unless they make any unsupported modifications which are the sole causation of the damage/defect.

Christopher Engelhardt -

I have been trying for 3 days to get the phone open...using all of these instructions and tools. No luck! %#*@!

sailr - Reply

What step are you stuck on?

Evan Noronha -

I've encountered phones where the IOpener was no match for all the adhesive. I succeeded by heating them with an iron that's made for shrinking monocoat covering around the wings of radio controlled model airplanes. You can get them at a good hobby shop for ~$15.00. It's shaped so you can heat around corners and comes with a sock to keep from scratching anything. That method always defeated the adhesive for me.

David Blythe - Reply

If you are using a heat shrink iron as David commented above, keep it in contact with the phone for the shortest possible time required to soften the adhesive. At their highest settings these irons can reach over 200 degrees C (around 400 F) which is hot enough to damage flat cables, and distort or even melt plastic components inside the phone.

mlewus - Reply

The recipe is quite good and easy to follow.

But you should buy the the adhesive film and use it to fix the body again because the old one you have to destroy to handle the screws.

This film you can by at Amazon for 7,50€ and it was delivered within 2 days.

Winfried Vogel - Reply

Guys I had the same problem. For those who need to restart the S6 which is not responsive, try holding your power button and volume buttons simultaneously for more than 7 seconds before trying to remove battery which is btw mission impossible 15.

Akica - Reply

Thanks Akica, for your tip. It worked! Had S6 for 18 months and never had any problems until now but didn't realise such a palaver required to take the cover of a phone!

rosemary_mcdonald -

it worked thanks

alaa sassi -

This is why it pays to read the comments! Thank you! Totally worked and saved me a huge headache!

Ell -

This is why it pays to read the comments! Totally worked and saved me a major headache! Thank you for sharing! :)

Ell -

Thanks for the guide! I haven't done it yet as I don't need to, I was just checking to see how hard it would be to replace my phone battery so I would know if I would really have to baby the thing haha...this is a great guide, which I would have no trouble following so my mind is at ease.

Clayton Boyle - Reply

The replacement battery doesn't come with adhesive strips. How can I stick the replacement part down? Can I use those adhesive strips for iPhones? Or clear double sided tape?

Ben Adelie - Reply

Either of those options should work. I'd be partial to using iPhone adhesive strips to make the battery easier to remove the next time around.

Evan Noronha -

Do you if coaxial antenna cable from s6 edge works on s6? I managed to broke it and i dont find to buy for s6.

Tracke - Reply

Hi i am looking for the battery for my Samsung S6 at the moment is out of stock so how long I have to wait?

Bobby Nguang - Reply

Once you get to removing the battery there is some adhesive holding it in place. It is probably a good idea to replace this so the battery does not move around, I used a small amount of UHU all purpose glue.

DO NOT USE super glue as this damages the plastic covering of the battery.

David Foley - Reply

Just did this today. If I had to add anything, you need a LOT of heat, and a VERY thin guitar pick to get between the glass and the midframe. I had to get the back panel to around 100c before the adhesive would give way, a lot hotter than I usually need to get most things apart (75-80c is the norm). Be careful not to burn yourself whilst you're doing this. Also, a larger battery will fit in here! Apparently S7 batteries can fit in the S6, but do your research online before you attempt this.

Stephen De Tomasi - Reply

good post. useful information to phone users of Samsung s6

Chiru S - Reply

Use a purpose built heating pad at 100 degree Celsius eg; https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uyue-948...

ken - Reply

first time I have attempted this for my Samsung S6 and worked perfectly. I used a hot air gun... at max 110 degrees Celcius. Took about 30 minutes. cheers!

Mark - Reply

Hi, would you recommend changing the battery or just buying a portable charging dock? I'm torn with what to do. I want to change the battery but don't want to damage the phone. Thanks.

Mel Broadwood -

looks like samsung are going backwards, simple to change a battery on my S3

Barry Cook - Reply

Iopener is a joke. Not near enough heat.

Scott Conover - Reply

So before I changed the battery my phone was on 60 percent..then once it was replaced with a new battery it was still at 60 percent..Can anyone tell me if thats good, bad, etc.

Jordan Sanchez - Reply

hi! ive just finished replacing the battery after using your method. it worked perfectly! however, now im having problems trying to get the screen on. i placed the phone on charge (as the new battery would need charging) and i attempted to turn it on after 30 mins. The first time i pressed the power button, the blue light at the top came on, the buttons at the bottom near the home button lit up and i heard the samsung start up sound, but nothing showed on the screen. the second time i pressed the power button (while battery was still being charged, the bottom buttons, again, lit up and the red charging indicator light remained on but i didnt get the samsung start up sound and the blue light as i did the first time. Is this just an issue with the battery not being charged still or is there possibly something wrong with the connector on my motherboard?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Tyranique Thurston - Reply

Just swapped out my battery… took about half an hour for me too. I would recommend a hair dryer over the heat pad they give you. Put the hi dryer on high and steadily went over the back panel for about 3 to 4 minutes moving medium slow…. I used the adhesive that I bought for the phon that matches the frame, but t had to buy on amazon for it. Also, needed just a bit of double sided tape to put the new battery on in place.

Overall though it’s a great kit and instructions!!! Gonna have to do another Samsung 6 soon, but the cost for the kit andbatteries is way cheaper than anew phone or the $120 to have someone do it for me. Though I am technically very capable to do the repair, anyone should be fine doing it if they can use a screw driver and just take their time.

Scott Boskovich - Reply

What the &&^&, are you joking with this $@$*? If you need to remove a phone's battery, it should just be a hands-only process, not some hour long ordeal with specific tools that are useless for any other job. What brainless douche came up with such a pain in the ass design for a phone? Ridiculous!

sgt ROCK - Reply

This was super easy to do. The kits on Amazon fit perfectly. Used my hobby iron and went around the edges for about 3 minutes set at 100C (212F) and everything came off real easy with no damage to anything. Took about 40 minutes to do, which included cleaning up the old adhesive and the phone before reassembling. Well worth the effort versus buying a new phone, the new battery is just like the day I bought it.

HockeyDad - Reply

The battery swap is complete, but the screen now is only black, with a momentary flash of a green box when the power button is pressed. Holding the power button/volume button simultaneously has no effect. Could this be a broken screen problem?

Michelle - Reply

Hair drier didn’t work that well for me and I ended up breaking the back, but at £3 on eBay I considered this a small price to pay for less messing about and a quicker fix if you buy it in advance

Tezza de Grey - Reply

You can put the S7 Edge battery into the S6. Fit exactly perfect!!! You can read some review serching in internet

Daniel Yaben - Reply

Hello. My S6 felt in the sink (full of water). Unfortunatly the rear facing camera glass (from the frame) was broken. Couple of water got inside. Already passed a few days, putted the S6 to dry (even in rice), but it still doesn’t power on. Pretty sure it short circuited somewhere. I’m considering replacing the battery and the rear camera. Do you think I have any chance?

presi - Reply

I also wouldn’t have bought this phone if I’d known how hard it is to do the routine maintenance of replacing the battery. Since this is rated as difficult, I was afraid to attempt it myself. I took a new battery and adhesive strips to a local repair shop, SecurePro in SLO, where someone who’s done this many times turned it around perfectly in under half an hour. No more range anxiety!

Cynthia Replogle - Reply

Wasn’t too bad- my only problem / tip (?)- the rear glass on my phone had semi-shattered, so prying the rear cover off caused a few more breaks in the glass- and crucially, the glass seperated from the opaque film backing rather than from the phone. meant having to remove the backing and glue. Which was fine- I didn’t mind having the rear glass broken before but now it is transparent! which actually looks super cool. Great guide.

Hugh Roche Kelly - Reply

Out of curiosity - I replaced the battery with the kit from IFixIt - production date of new battery was early 2018.

Battery is now used for 2 months - and has a capacity of close to 0. So it last for 1/4 day without any interaction; phone typically drops dead at around 40% of the battery. A reboot then shows 0% battery.

Has anyone seen similar behavior.

I’m wondering if replacing the battery jet again makes sense - or if all S6 batteries (even the replacment kits) are just crap.

Nico - Reply

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