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Hi guys,

(I hope i'm at the good place for my question)

So, i've just received my new MBP Retina yesterday, i'm really crazy about it, really awesome computer but i hoped that the temperature of the MBP should be "colder"

I'm mean, i have also a MacBook Air, and exept during FaceTime / watching video on web (flash), the computer was really normal concerning temperature (50-60C)

I actually use SMC Fan Control for Fan control and iStat Menu to watch temperature

But this MBP (which should be a monster) is hottest than the MBA !

I have actually Chrome (Canary - because, it's the only chrome which actually is supporting retina display), Safari (same reason), Skype v2 (just opened, not calling), Diablo 3 installing ans Teamviewer (opened, not using)

I have like 5-6 tab in my browsers

And the temperature is around 80C with fan rotate at 2800 rpm

So, i don't understand why this MBP (which should be really comfortable at using, with video encoding, gaming, and others...) is really hot like that

Can you explain to me please ? i'm getting worried about it :S

Thanks

(Sorry for my english)

PS : Oh btw, it's the default one, without any changement (256GB SSD and 8GB RAM)

Hope you can help me and maybe reassure me

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iRobot,

My Retina MacBook Pro dissipates heat very quickly. It gets very hot when I'm playing Skyrim or other games at maxed out settings, but that is to be expected. Take a look at Activity Monitor (built-in OS X app) to see if there's some runaway process or something. Like Dan said, Flash Player can be a nuisance. Good luck!

Adam Hintz,

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Because Ivy Bridge is a much smaller (22nm) and advanced chip, it runs much hotter when processing. It is normal for it to get really, really hot. If you are still worried about temperatures though, follow this guide- Reapplying Thermal Paste to the CPU and GPU

(Experience: I've been working with computers since DOS came out, and have a Computer Hardware Repair Service. I just updated the guide, and can say from personal experience that it is a pretty easy upgrade if you have all the required parts!)

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Don't understand the downtick so I am canceling it. +

rj713,

Same here :) always the same characters downvoting answers...

oldturkey03,

This is not the best answer! A new system should not need to get the thermo paste replaced If that was really the root problem then you should return the system to Apple as that is a defective unit or bad design! - In this case the root problem is not the CPU but the software running causing the CPU to run in turbo mode all of the time. This is when a high priority process runs wild (stuck in a loop) or poorly written code or the nature of the process forces lots of looping (as in the case if the 32bit version of Flash player).

Dan,

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This has been a "known issue" for a while. I would 'invest in a cooling pad, and... I hope you bought AppleCare.''

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If your MBP is operating outside of established design

parameters, then you have a problem.

If not, then there is no problem.

Use an infrared thermometer to measure the temperature.

Call Apple and report the temperature if you are worried about it.

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First Adobe Flash player is a known heater! get the 64bit Beta version ASAP.

There is some controls you can use to set which GPU to use the internal Intel or the external Nvidia GPU. While I too love the retina display technology it comes with a price. When you use full resolution the external Nvidia GPU is used which does get the system hotter. If you aren't viewing high res images I would switch to the internal GPU using the low resolution mode. Review Apples FAQ Retina display resolution

Beyond that you should speak with Apple as it sounds like something is running wild (process?) your system shouldn't be getting that hot. Using an inferred thermometer measure your system and then go to an Apple Store and measure one of their display units running the same thing (same settings).

In any case I would hold off opening your system to redo thermo paste. A brand new system shouldn't require this (this will also void your warranty).

The mobile Ivy Bridge has a stepped clock so it runs as a slower clock speed with light tasking across all of the cores then when needed it steps into a higher clock speed and can run in dual core mode Vs quad. This allows the CPU to run cooler when it's not being heavily loaded.

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Hi,

I was told not to use fan control with newer versions of SL (I'm on 10.6.8) and Lion because there have been modifications to the fan management in the OS and FanControl can cause problems such as preventing the fans from running faster than 2000rpm and thus making things worse instead of "cool" (:

I would suggest uninstalling the app and see if this changes anything...

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I've been using SMC Fan control with my RMBP since I got it. For me at least, no interference with the mac taking over to raise fan speeds when it gets hot. I just have it because with or without it, lion takes a LONG time to do anything to raise it. I'll hit 200 degrees F before it even starts upping it usually. I ended up putting it back on since even if it can't monitor the heat (I have Temperature Monitor installed for that) at least I can proactively fire the fans up to max if I know I'm going to do something that's going to create a toaster on my lap. But if I don't change anything manually the laptop still speeds up the fans on its own. Just not as quick as I'd wish (again, same delay even without smc fan control installed).

I ran the update yesterday on my rMBP 15 inch and where I used to instantly soar to 210 degrees F as soon as I fired up an MKV or a flash webpage, now i can't get it to break 120 degrees F doing either. Used to idle around 100 degrees F, now it idles in the 80's

jdthird,

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It's been found that their is nothing wrong by design, although reapplying a better paste couldn't hurt, with the temperatures. Migration Assistant tends to mess things up and also Amazon has stated that they have a bug in the Upload to Kindle process that causes a never ending BASH script to run continuously driving up the temperatures.

I killed the Bash script and de-installed Send to Kindle and my temp during idle never exceed 97 deg F not when they were at 130 deg F. Also on the Apple support forum there is a thread (search for Bash using up lots of cpu) that states that during Migration Assistant it messes up the CUPS process as well leaving stalled printer and fax queues. I ran the internal CUPS web service, found 2 stalled items, killed them both and now my rMBP actually can sit on my laptop and can still feel the cool of the metal case.

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i have same problem so i'm really worried about the overheating :S :(

Hassan - I just bought a new Retina MacBook Pro as my old system had a case of bad luck with the force of gravity the other day ;-{ I can tell you my new system ran on the hot side when I was migrating and installing all of the software I needed to put on it. After which it was a cool cat! I do a lot of software & web design and need to do dog & pony demos with customers (which is why I like the new Retina MB). The only time my system would get hot is when I play vids with Flash, and warm when running vids within iTunes which is to be expected. I didn't hit any apps with a runaway process which could explain other people's experiences with their systems over heating. - Bottom line here your going to be just fine with your new Retina MB system as I am!

Dan,

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Problem solved. Apple released fix for GFX-card today. Upgrade your Macbook! I have Macbook Retina 15 inch and everything is quiet after upgrade =)

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Here's a listing of all Retina updates - Which one is the one that fixed your system? http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=s...

Dan,

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Well, your CPU can run as hot as 105°C While you're not at this temperature then everything is working as designed. I can't comment on GPU, but at least they can run as hot as CPU's if not even hotter. As pointed above if you want to decrease this temperatures you will need to reapply thermal paste by yourself because the original is not applied as should be. If you don't want to void your warranty then just don't worry about and accept as it is :-) My MBP 13" mid2012 non-retina can easily be hot as 102°C practically within minute. Fans will cool down CPU after another minute to 99°C in average. So if you find your MBP hot I think it's normal or it's design flaw in 2012 series :-(

Opening your new system to reapply the thermal paste should be your very last option as most likely its not the root cause. If you have an older system 3 ~ 4 years then it might make sense.

Dan,

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jdthird posted:

I ran the update yesterday on my rMBP 15 inch and where I used to instantly soar to 210 degrees F as soon as I fired up an MKV or a flash webpage, now i can't get it to break 120 degrees F doing either. Used to idle around 100 degrees F, now it idles in the 80's

jdthird, Nov 9 2012

Which update is this?

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