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My MacBook Pro boot to the Apple Logo with progress meter just fine. After a normal space of time it continues as though it is going to boot normally but instead of going to the blue screen or blue screen with the cursor arrow it goes to what I would call a white screen and just stays there without booting any farther.

I have changed the Ram, I have reset the PRAM, I have changed the HDD, but it hasn't helped. It will boot in the Safe Mode without a glitch but when I try to reboot in the Normal Mode it returns to the white screen after displaying the Apple Logo and progress monitor.

I do not have the original install discs for this computer and even if I did have I wouldn't know how to best use them.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Edited by: Andrew Optimus Goldberg ( )

As suggested, I tried the "First Aid" "Repair Disk" from another mac computer and when I re-installed the HDD in my MacBook Pro it does the same old thing. Any more suggestions?

Don,

I removed the hard drive and attached it to my Mac Pro A1186 tower using USB and it boots perfectly. I then attached it to my Mac Mini A1283 and it booted, no problem. I ran repair disk and permissions repair various times on the Mac Pro and re-installed it into the A1150 and obtained the same result (a light blue/white screen after the Apple Logo and progress monitor). I do have a factory retail install disks for 10.4 Tiger, 10.5 Leopard, and 10.6 Snow Leopard. The OS currently installed on the Hard Drive is OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. Do you suggest that I try it with OS X 10.5.8 Leopard? I can very easily do so but I thought that the All50 should run Snow Leopard without any problem. I really hope that I don't have to revert all the way back to Tiger even though it's a good OS I prefer Leopard or Snow Leopard. I also tried it with a new Hard Drive with the same OS 10.6.8 installed and obtained the same result. Will a bad Logic Board give this kind of symptoms?

Don,

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If the system will boot into Safe Mode functionally, it's possible that the damage is limited to your user account. Some user resource may be damaged, or you may have installed some software recently that's loading at startup and screwing something up.

One diagnostic trick is to log into safe mode, then create a new user account. Go into System Preferences>Accounts, create a new account with admin privileges, turn off automatic login (if it's on), then restart the computer and log into the new account and see if the symptoms persist. If not, then it's a problem with the user account.

You say you replaced the hard drive. Did you transfer all the data from the old hard drive to the replacement? If so, you probably copied the problem data from the old drive, too.

Beg/borrow/steal a bootable drive (DVD or hard drive) to run disk repairs. You should always have a second bootable disk available to you, so you can fix your boot drive.

Once you get a usable external drive with 10.4.6 through 10.6.8 (either a bootable hard drive, or any bootable system install disc - retail or OEM, whether it's intended for your computer or not), boot from that drive. When you're fully booted to the finder or the system installer:

  1. locate Disk Utility (in HD>Applications>Utilities on a hard drive, in the Utilities menu on an install disk)
  2. select the icon for your suspect hard drive in the left-hand pane
  3. click the "First Aid" tab
  4. click "Repair Disk"

When that operation has finished, look to see what got "fixed". If there's a long list, run it a second time; you should get fewer things repaired.

Once you've finished with Repair Disk, quit Disk Utility and reboot from your hard drive. Ideally, you should then be able to boot to the finder.

Okay, based on your repair attempt...hmmm... Let's go back to basics. The OS that shipped with the A1150 first-generation MacBook Pro (Firewire 400, but no Firewire 800 port) was 10.4.5/10.4.6. What version of the OS do you have installed on the hard drive? If you attach the hard drive externally to another computer (either removing it, like you seem to be doing, or doing it the easy way with Target Drive Mode through a Firewire cable), can you boot the other computer from the MBP's internal hard drive? If you're still able to boot into Safe Mode, try doing that and then running the installed copy of Disk Utility (Applications>Utilities>Disk Utility) and repairing permissions. If you do that (as with Repair Disk, you might want to run it through a few times), can you then boot normally?

adlerpe,

My suspicion is that there's something goofed up in your OS. The normal recommendation is to reinstall the OS, but you don't have install disks. I think this experience proves that you need to get some - either a retail 10.5.x/Leopard install disk, or a Snow Leopard install disk. Is there anything on your hard drive currently that you want to preserve? Aside from not currently having install disk(s), is there a reason you couldn't reformat the drive (to clean up any possible bad blocks you might have) and start from scratch? And hey: Can anyone tell me why paragraph breaks on this wiki are so scattershot? I keep formatting the breaks the same way (two hard returns), but sometimes I get a paragraph break and sometimes I don't (like in these comments). It's very annoying. Hard to read, too.

adlerpe,

More info; mmmm...one thing I notice is that the other two machines you're trying the system on (A1283 mini, March 2009-June 2010, 8GB RAM max; A1186 Mac Pro, August 2006-March 2009, 32GB RAM max) use more modern CPUs and have *way* more RAM capacity than the A1150 MBP (February-May 2006). The mini uses a Core 2 Duo and the tower uses Xeons, while the original MBP is a Core Duo with 2GB max RAM. This raises the possibility that the RAM footprint and CPU draw of 10.6.8 exceeds the capacity of your MBP as it's currently configured. If you can boot into safe mode, you're shrinking the RAM footprint. How much RAM do you have installed, and how fast is the CPU? I'd max out the RAM first, then try reinstalling 10.5.8 and see if you can boot from that.

adlerpe,

I think every machine has an optimum OS. Sometimes that's not the latest OS the machine is theoretically capable of running; installing the latest n'greatest is often a way to make an old system unusably slow. Although my B&W G3 could run 10.3.9, it behaved much better under 10.2.8. Same with my FW800, where I left it on 10.4.11 because 10.5 slowed it down so much.

adlerpe,

Don, I'm guessing you've moved past this issue. But just in case you're still working on this, another thought comes to mind: According to Mactracker, the A1150 MBP will run up to OSX 10.6.8. But the MacTracker page also lists a MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.2 for that system, which can be installed with any boot system down to 10.4.6. It's possible that the Snow Leopard installer requires that firmware update be installed before the system installer can be run...Since you've said you can boot other machines from your old drive, when using the drive as an external boot drive, have you tried to boot the A1150 from its original drive as an external? If that works, there may be a problem with your internal drive bus.

adlerpe,

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I have the same problem on my A1150 Mac Book Pro with a grey screen at boot up after the apple logo, even after a SMC reset, and PRAM reset, but I can boot using a safe boot, although the mouse has a small checkered box. I ran disk utility in Safe boot from another disk partition, and found no problems with bad clocks on the hard disk, or disk permissions issue's. This Computer was given to me, the Apple consultant told me that it would only boot into a black screen before even when connected to an external monitor. I googled the black screen issue, and found a you tube video on "How to Bake My Mac". I removed the logic board, which has an embedded ATI 1600 GPU. I wrapped it in foil, exposing just the GPU chip, and placed it in the oven to re-flow the solder , after it cooled down I put the Mac Book Pro back together, and it's been working for several months with out issue, until this past week. Could this be an issue with the PRAM battery causing the grey screen, or possibly the GPU needs to be re-balled?

Since it's a 2006 Intel Core Duo, and not a Core2 Duo CPU, I am just not sure that it is worth putting another $150.00 - $300.00 into it?

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