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Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement

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  1. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Dismantle battery: step 1, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Dismantle battery: step 1, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Dismantle battery: step 1, image 3 of 3
    • Save the tiny screws. They are easily lost and hard to replace.

    • Watch out the cables inside may very short.

  2. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Remove old battery and obsolete stuff: step 2, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Remove old battery and obsolete stuff: step 2, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Remove old battery and obsolete stuff: step 2, image 3 of 3
    • Depending on battery type this may look a bit different.

    • Sometimes the batteries have a very tight fit and are not to easy to remove. Try pulling with pliers

  3. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Desolder old battery: step 3, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Desolder old battery: step 3, image 2 of 2
    • The original NiCd batteries had two additional cables for a temperature sensor. See yellow one, which also has the original plastic housing.

    • Be sure to dispose the old battery pack properly. They contain harmful chemicals and need special treatment for waste disposal!

  4. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Prepare batteries for soldering: step 4, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Prepare batteries for soldering: step 4, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Prepare batteries for soldering: step 4, image 3 of 3
    • This step helps later to have the solder stick to the batteries

  5. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Align the batteries: step 5, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Align the batteries: step 5, image 2 of 2
    • I had to turn around one of the batteries later in the guide to allow easier soldering... depends on the wiring though.

  6. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 6, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 6, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 6, image 3 of 3
    • The PCB/BMS Board plus wiring diagram

    • The wiring diagram may be different depending on the PCB used. But the principle is the same for all types.

  7. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Testing the size.: step 7, image 1 of 1
    • Check the size of the battery pack together with the BMS Board. It should easily fit with a bit of space inside the housing. Otherwise you may get problems down the road of this guide.

  8. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering: step 8, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering: step 8, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering: step 8, image 3 of 3
    • You can also use normal thin wire, but be aware that the space within the housing is limited.

  9. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, cutting the connector: step 9, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, cutting the connector: step 9, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, cutting the connector: step 9, image 3 of 3
    • This is based on the specific PCB used and my be different for others

  10. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solder B+ on PCB: step 10, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solder B+ on PCB: step 10, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solder B+ on PCB: step 10, image 3 of 3
    • Add a bit of solder on the connector you want to use next. I started with B+ and connected it to the + pole of the first battery.

    • Test again if everything fits in the housing.

    • Warning! The housing is metal. Make sure not to short-cut something!

  11. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Connect - of B1 and + of B2: step 11, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Connect - of B1 and + of B2: step 11, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Connect - of B1 and + of B2: step 11, image 3 of 3
    • Again do not short cut anything!

    • The hilium connector helps here to save lots of space compared to wires

  12. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 12, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 12, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement: step 12, image 3 of 3
    • Fold the hilium and use pliers to flatten it

    • Use scissors to cut to the right length

    • Again add a bit of solder before soldering the hilium connector

  13. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solderig B1- and isolation: step 13, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solderig B1- and isolation: step 13, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Solderig B1- and isolation: step 13, image 3 of 3
    • See the finalised soldering of Step 12

    • Use electric tape to isolate the finished work (this prevents shortcuts)

  14. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, More electrical tape: step 14, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, More electrical tape: step 14, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, More electrical tape: step 14, image 3 of 3
    • Try to isolate but do not cover the writings on the PCB so you can still see, what is already wired.

  15. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Turn around B3: step 15, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Turn around B3: step 15, image 2 of 2
    • It is hard to get the orientation if all batteries correct on first try. But the tape allows cutting and reorientation if needed.

    • This is only needed to use less of the connector and allow easier wiring without crossings

  16. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Wiring B2 & B3: step 16, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Wiring B2 & B3: step 16, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Wiring B2 & B3: step 16, image 3 of 3
    • Again add a bit of solder to the poles.

    • And use fold the connector tape.

    • Watch out for shortcuts

  17. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Fold and cut the connector for B2-: step 17, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Fold and cut the connector for B2-: step 17, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Fold and cut the connector for B2-: step 17, image 3 of 3
    • Now you see why the electrical tape is needed for isolation. If the connector roll is touching the wrong parts you may get a short cut, that may brick your PCB.

  18. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering B2- on the PCB: step 18, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering B2- on the PCB: step 18, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Soldering B2- on the PCB: step 18, image 3 of 3
    • The pliers help to not burn your fingers.

    • See on 2nd picture how much space we save with the hilium connectors.

    • On 3rd picture we see how solder punctured the electrical tape. In the next step we add another layer for security.

  19. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Even more isolation: step 19, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Even more isolation: step 19, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Even more isolation: step 19, image 3 of 3
    • I cut the electrical tape to not cover the markings on the PCB.

  20. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, and even more isolation: step 20, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, and even more isolation: step 20, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, and even more isolation: step 20, image 3 of 3
    • Adding another layer of isolation as we have crossing hilium connectors here.

  21. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Finalising the battery pack: step 21, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Finalising the battery pack: step 21, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Finalising the battery pack: step 21, image 3 of 3
    • Note from the wiring diagram the B3-connector of the PCB is unused.

    • So we add electrical tape to isolate it.

  22. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Adding P+/P- wires: step 22, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Adding P+/P- wires: step 22, image 2 of 2
    • These are the charge/discharge ports of our battery pack

    • Be sure that the length of the wire is long enough to wire it to the Rollei outlet later.

    • If you use a multimeter to check the voltage you will see it's 0V

    • The PCB needs to be activated, we do this by doing some short charging

  23. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Testing the battery pack: step 23, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Testing the battery pack: step 23, image 2 of 2
    • A bit of charging is sufficient. The MaHa charger shows the voltage of 10,4V

    • Now also the multimeter shows the correct voltage.

    • The PCB is now activated and the battery pack correctly wired.

    • If this step is not working as expected, then check all wiring, soldering and diagrams again to validate there are no mistakes.

  24. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Wiring to the lid of the Rollei battery: step 24, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Wiring to the lid of the Rollei battery: step 24, image 2 of 2
    • This is the most tricky soldering part.

    • Make sure there is not anything connected that shouldn't.

    • The battery has two + and two - poles. Make sure the + (white cable) is connected to the right input. Have a look at the red cables. One is going directly to the camera connector. The other one is protected by a fuse that protects your camera.

  25. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Add foam to fill free space: step 25, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Add foam to fill free space: step 25, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Add foam to fill free space: step 25, image 3 of 3
    • Find out how much foam you need by putting the battery pack with foam layers outside of the housing.

    • Keep space for wires and fuse at the top.

  26. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Assembly: step 26, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Assembly: step 26, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Assembly: step 26, image 3 of 3
    • Align battery pack, lid and housing

    • Notice that the screws are on one side only.

    • Two tiny squares snap into the other side.

    • Check that the lid is closing completely, without much pressure (Pic. 3). Otherwise remove a bit foam

  27. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Screwing together: step 27, image 1 of 2 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Screwing together: step 27, image 2 of 2
    • Final assembly steps

  28. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Final testing: step 28, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Final testing: step 28, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Final testing: step 28, image 3 of 3
    • Note: the lid is now turned around (thus mirrored to the wiring diagram)

    • It is expected that the two connectors to the right produce 0V

    • Make sure you get roughly 10V with the right polarity

    • Repeat this step, to double-check. BEFORE inserting the battery into your camera.

  29. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Protecting misuse: step 29, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Protecting misuse: step 29, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Protecting misuse: step 29, image 3 of 3
    • Fill the two unused connectors (from the temp sensor) with hard glue. This prevents users from accidentally using a Rollei Charger N or G, which are not suitable for the battery type and might cause fire or explosion.

    • Charge the battery with a Lithium capable LiFePO4 charger only!

    • Notice that the battery has now only 81g compared to 210g for the old NiCd.

    • Happy using your Rollei again!

  30. Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Building a Charger Tray: step 30, image 1 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Building a Charger Tray: step 30, image 2 of 3 Rollei 6000/6008 Battery LiFePO4 Replacement, Building a Charger Tray: step 30, image 3 of 3
    • Attached you can find a STL file (under Media) to 3D-PRINT a charging tray for the new pin layout (remember blocking some pins so the Rollei Charger N cannot fry your new battery). The 3D Model can also be downloaded from here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:215677...

    • Print the 3D Model (or get it printed online).

    • Get a connector socket (for the charger I used I got one of these: https://bit.ly/2NwmhUo ) with 12.6mm diameter (you can use others but the 3D model might not fit then).

    • Solder wires to two pins (check the diameter of the pins so they fit the battery!) Make sure they're tick enough to have electrical contact. I used two small nails I shortened. Glue the pins into the two holes so they stick out roughly 5-6mm. Validate that the battery fits and connects (use a meter!)

    • Solder the other ends of the cables to the socket and glue the socket into the hole. Fill the bottom side of the tray with hot glue to fix everything.

    • A charger can be ordered from eBay: search for 11V Charger 1A Smart to 9.6V LiFe LiFePO4

    • https://www.ebay.com/itm/11V-Charger-1A-...

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