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Optibay Slot wont read hard drives

This is a long one, but here's the recap:

- Bought in 2010, removed SuperDrive, instead put in an Optibay Knock Off (let's call this OKO), and a OCZ Vertex 2.

- At this point, SSD is primary boot device, and the original 320GB SATA drive is in the original location, acting as my data drive. Pure Bliss for 5 months.

Then, one day starting my laptop gives me the dreaded Question Mark.

- Put everything back to stock config, brought to Apple, they deemed their original 320 drive as dead, replaced it with a new, and gave me the old 'dead' drive.

- Came home, put SSD and OKO back, system boots, but unresponsive. Desktop appears, but I tried clicking everywhere and nothing happens. For about 6-7 minutes, then all my clicks 'register' and my system works, but Disk Utility does not see my SSD.

- But nothing was wrong was with my SSD. Right? I take my firewire external and plug my SSD in, and I am able to boot from my SSD just fine. Weird. Then, I plug my data drive, that apple deemed as dead, and that works too via my external! This is getting interesting.

- So drives are ok, must be the OKO right? I order the real Optibay, and lo and behold, same issues. I tried using the real Optibay with both my SSD AND the 'dead' hard drive, (which works fine externally) and same issues. Desktop unresponsive

- If I take out the Optibay, all boots well with my stock 320 OSX installation.

Sooooo:

- It must be logic board on the Optical Drive slot thats haywire, or the connector that is bad. Right?

Apple says everything is fine, cause when the superdrive is there, there are no errors.

I guess the SATA connector part may be bad:

MacBook Pro 15" Unibody (Mid 2009 to Mid 2012) SATA SuperDrive Cable

will try and replace, but if it's not that - what is it?

Why would my OSX installation, on the stock 320 SATA drive freeze for so long after booting when there is something in the second slot?

What are the chances both Optibay and OKO are actually dead?

How do I prove that the second slot, where optical drive is bad, if Apple says they don't support external hardware?

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+ very well stated question. It appears, at first, that you've done everything right. Will have to mull this one over a while as I have no answers yet. Just wanted you to know that you're not being ignored.

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well, the problem got worse, the laptop now couldnt even read discs, and then it disappeared from the Sys config. I went to the Apple store, and finally they were able to test it and see the problem.

MacBook out for a logic board swap. I think this is it. Whew.

Thanks for your help, and this is an excellent site + great community. Apple products are amazing when they work, and when they don't, well, one is usually S.O.L. This site helps make it a bit easier

- S

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Fine diagnostic if Apple is paying. Are they? If not lets don't jump just yet.

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Yup, they replaced the logic board, connector and a bracket. put back Optibay and SSD and all is well. Saga over.

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I'm having nearly the exact same issue. My logic board suffered some unfortunate liquid damage earlier this year (MBP wouldn't even boot). I found a guy on ebay who does logicboard repairs rather than replacements (saved me hundreds) and my computer worked fine for a couple months. I recently replaced the SuperDrive with a Kingston SSD and everything was working fine for a few weeks.

One day when I got home from work I got a kernel panic and my computer refused to boot. I reinstalled SL onto the 320GB HDD that came with the computer via firewire and Target Disk mode (I had converted it to a storage drive) but was unable to write to the SSD. I was able to recover data from the drive using DiskWarrior, but I could not write, erase or repartition the SSD. I tried to repair the SSD using Disk Utility several times, each time with "success" but I could not use the drive. After a day or two, the SSD stopped being recognized by the computer (not showing up in Disk Utility or System Profiler).

I removed the SSD from my MBP and put it into my hackintosh where it functioned normally. This obviously rules out drive failure. So I put the SuperDrive back into my MBP to test the SATA connection, and it too fails to be recognized by Disk Utility or System Profiler.

Now I am having the exact same issue as you. There is a problem with either my Super Drive cable (flex cable?) or my logic board itself. Since I've already had issues with this logic board (and that was the cause of your problem as well) it seems only reasonable that it's the culprit in my situation as well. Perhaps an important difference is that my computer continues to function normally when booted from the other internal drive regardless of whether the SSD is connected.

I think maybe I just melted a solder or something (or with a huge amount of luck, I just need to replace a cable). What are the odds of being able to repair my MBP without a full logic board replacement? It's already out of warranty (which was surely voided when the logic board was repaired the first time anyway).

I could probably send my computer back to the guy that fixed it the first time, but that cost several hundred dollars and shipping to Canada ain't cheap. I guess I technically don't NEED the other SATA port, but SSD's large enough to replace both drives are too expensive for my recent-college-graduate budget. :-(

-Eli

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I dont know anything about liquid damage, but it does not sound good. If I was in your position, with no warratny left, Id just go with what works - and that's the SSD. Get a bigger one if you need more space that bad. With the new 512 out, the 256 should go down soon

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Eerily similar problem here. Identical setup to the OP, except an older MB.

I have a Mid-2009 15"MBP. Swapped the optical drive for an OCZ Vertex 2 SSD and Optibay Knockoff two days ago. Worked great for about 12 hours before the system crashed and the computer became un-bootable.

-Took the system back apart, and nudged, unplugged, and plugged cables for a while to try to isolate the problem. Seems to be a physical problem - it would occasionally boot after disconnecting and reconnecting... but a tiny nudge would screw the whole thing up. I'm fairly sure the problem is where the logic board connects to the optical drive cable.

-SSD is still working in an enclosure. No such luck for the Optical Drive, which is now back in its proper place. It seeks on boot but isn't recognized by the OS. Yikes! Hoping the problem is with the cable, but like the OP I'm not terribly optimistic.

-Will be taking it to the Apple store soon... would rather not drop $30 on the cable if it's not necessarily the problem.

-Weird to have the same problem with the same SSD. Hope it's a coincidence...

Steven, what knockoff OptiBay are you using? Mine is the Nimitz model, available on ebay.

-Apple store and stomaching the logic board replacement if necessary is all I can think of now. Worth noting that this would be the second time the logic board has failed. Last time it was the actual HDD bay.

Anyone have other suggestions to test or repair it?

Thanks,

Ben

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Hi Ben

I dont remember which knockoff it was - it was about $25. I'd say get the real Optibay. Seems better quality, and the price difference is so negligible, that if that ends up preventing issues later it's well worth all that time you'll spend undoing/redoing configs to bring it in for repair.

Also assuming you dont have any warranty time left. I dont have good advice unfortunately, you're problem sounds like the logic board. What about just using the SSD in the primary slot (where the stock drive came) and not using the 2nd drive? Not a great option - but def cheaper than a $800+ board replacement. That was going to be my last resort.

Best of luck.

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I have this exact same issue with a mid 2009 MacBook Pro. I'm using an OWC data doubler. I think it's the data cable, but it sounds like it's actually a problem with the connector on the logic board. It probably becomes damaged when disconnected the first time. Oh well, I'm just going to get a mobile enclosure for my HD and deal with it for a year till I get a new machine.

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I have the same problem. I used OptiBay knock off. I have the Vertex 3 SSD in the standard slot and original 750 GB HDD in the optibay.

At first the I could only see the HDD drive in Disk Utility, but I could not format it. However, it worked fine when I put it back to its original slot.

Now I figured the optibay is just broken and put everything back, Superdrive and all, but the eject button doesn't work and the whole Superdrive is gone from the system profiler. So, Superdrive has power and hums sometimes, but it's not visible to the OSX.

I can see that I broke a little bit of the optical flex cable so I'll order a cable and see what happens.

I feel like an idiot now. Why god, why?

UPDATE (22 FEB 2013)

1. closely examine have you damaged the superdrive cable. If you see a small tear in cable, it's probably it.

2. Buy a new one (choose one that is correct for your mac, there were more than one..)

Mine (Late 2011 MB Pro) was fixed with a new 30 dollar "Optical Drive Superdrive Cable for MacBook Pro 15" Unibody"

Model: Mid-2009 Models (922-9032)

SKU17233112

Bought it from powerbookmedic.com.

Started working right away.

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Same problem here VRA. Did the cable help?

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I'm having the same problem. Mid-2009 MBP will not recognize the HD I added to the optical bay.

The SuperDrive was not functioning (would not read/write) for some time before I decided to get rid of it and instal an optibay.

I'm hoping it's a problem with the SATA connector cable or the optibay and not the logic board. The HD in the optibay works fine and the machine runs fine on its own. The only reason it might be the logic board is that I did have some water damage about a year ago and soon thereafter the SuperDrive started to fail. Could it be that the SuperDrive itself is fine and the logic board isn't communicating with it properly?

I'm going to replace the SATA connector cable and try and different optibay. Hope that solves the issue...

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Sorry--I forgot to ever repost my solution. It was the flex cable for me (and probably just about everyone in this thread). Apparently they're pretty fucxing delicate.

(this one for my model: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-922-9060-1...)

I went ahead and took my computer to the apple store. I was sure they weren't going to fix it, though I was hoping they might have a spare cable they could test to rule out LB failure (again).

I put the original optical drive back in (unrecognized in sys profiler) and told the techs I had tested the drive in another computer and that I thought I might have a malfunctioning SATA port. They looked at me sideways and told me my warranty was suposed to be void if I'd cracked the shell, but took the computer anyway. They gave me/the machine the standard rundown of patronizing tests, but when it all showed up like I'd said, they just shipped it off and fixed it for free (awesome and unexpected). You'll hear no complaints from me about apple customer service

When the work order came back, the only thing replaced was the flex cable. I swapped the optical drive back out for the SSD again (painstakingly careful with the cable this time) and everything has been smooth since

Short version: You may get lucky at the apple store, but if not I'd go ahead and spring for the new cable.

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Thanks for the encouraging response, Eli. I've ordered a new cable and will report back whether or not it fixes the issue in a few days. Thanks!

Update (1/10/13):

So I replaced the cheap optibay I got off of ebay with a the pricier data doubler from OWC today. Now the hard drive in the optibay mounts, reads, and writes just fine. Seems like the original optibay was a dud. I've still got a connector cable on the way from ifixit.. I'll either return it or hold onto it just in case.. haven't decided yet.

Has anyone had issues with the optibay SATA connectors failing over time? If so, I'll probably hold on to the one from ifixit. I already paid for express shipping on the thing... Oh well. Happy that everything is working (for now...) and that it wasn't a logic board issue like others have experienced.

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I have the same problem.

My mac doesn't see the HDD in the superdrive adapter. But (i've tried!), my HDD is fine if i plug it through external usb case (that i've bought to make internal superdrive works as external-one).

I've also tried to switch the SSD (now in the main drive-bay) with the HDD (in the superdrive-shape bay). What can i do??Maybe the Sata superdrive connector is fired?

HELP!!

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Mid 2012 MacBook Pro´s Optical Bays sata port can´t handle SATA III (6Gb/s)!!! (I have MacBookPro9.1 mid 2012 which is June 11th release)

I´ve tried everything and ended up buying WD Scorpio Black SATA II 750GB 7200RPM-drive. Now my new Samsung 840 PRO 256GB SSD-drive is in the main HDD-bay and Sorpio Black in the optical bay. Both are bootable as i installed both with Mountain lion. Everything works finally!

If you wan´t to use your old Itunes folder, import your old system with Migration Assistant or restore when installing Mountain lion to the WD Scorpio Black-drive.

Then after your SSD has been installed and booted up press option key and click Itunes and the you can choose the library. Go to your other drive and navigate to the Itunes-folder.

go to system preferences -> Power management and then check the put harddisks to sleep when possible.

Then go to terminal (applications/utilities)and change the idle drive sleeptime:

sudo pmset -a disksleep VALUE

I have set VALUE to 1 and the Optical bay hdd spinsdown after a minute its been idle and ofcourse spins up when its needed.

CHECK THIS THREADS 1ST POST for more good tweaks:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.p...

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I got late 2011 15" MBP 8,2 where in system info both Sata busses read Intel 6, but if I use Sata III SSD in Optibay it either won't read at all, or it will but hangs, is slow etc.

I am using OWC data doubler also, but that doesn't seem to help.

When I put my data III SSD in primary bay and stock HDD (Sata II) in Optibay, it works. Also, Superdrive works in Optibay without problem.

You think new superdrive data cable would help? I kinda doubt since my superdrive and stock HDD work without issues.

At this point, I am trying to run bootcamp on the stock HDD in Optibay. While I BARELY got it to work, I cannot instal ATI drivers ... so my screen has cut off edges at full 1080 resolution. if Im using 1440x900, screen is filled edge to edge, but come on 1440x900 :(

I think 2011 model is a miss entirely ... I love 2.5ghz 8mb L3 CPU, really do, with 16gb 1600mhz memory and SSD it chews on anything I throw at it ... but these little things are driving me crazy.

I have another Sata III SSD I wanted to put in that Optibay so both OS can run from SSD, but that dumb controller won't let me ... even tho its marked as Intel 6.

Any thoughts, or I should just give up?

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i have a problem with my macbook pro 2010 model, wont boot period dreaded question mark out of warranty, will boot to recovery but wont see hdd period, replaced hdd cable and hdd and still nothing dont know what to do now, still havent even paid the %#*@ computer off but yet its out of warranty this blows i really hope the logic board isnt fried but i can still sirf the web if i hold the command button at power up and click on the search internet recovery but it wont seem to power and read any hdd that i put in anybod have any sugestion the hdd cable is good its brand new and the light in the front that iS Apart of th hdd cable is on where it wouldnt come on before replacemnet of the cable it wouldnt i dont know what to do, dont have much money to repair

trying to fix on my own have pc repair knowledge but no mac.......

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Hi Guys, remarkably, in 2015, I have the same problem. I have an early 2011 15" MBP, other than having an original Apple SSD in the primary slot and a 1TB mechanical drive in the optibay slot, my problem is the same as everyone elses here.

In the last couple of months Apple have recognised a problem with the 2011 series of MBPs and are testing and replacing LogicBoards under warranty, even if expired. This was manly due to poor soldering with something to do with the video card resulting in garbled screens and random reboots.

My MBP was largely fine over it's life, but started playing up more frequently about a month ago. I found out about the replacement program and swapped out the 2nd HDD (and just left the slot blank) and took it in for warranty. Video card faulty and replaced. When I got it back, it was just the same and I never even bothered putting the HDD back. I took it straight back, they confirmed the new LB was also cactus and again replaced it under warranty.

I've had it back about a week now, and it's been fine. I went to install the HDD last night and just run into problem after problem.

Prior to taking the laptop in, I wiped the 2nd drive, and made an image of the SSD. I had the image saved to the 2nd drive. I then reformatted the SSD with Yosemite, complete fresh install. I even mounted the image (prior to installing Yosemite and then again after) and the image was fine. I'd created two partitions on the 2nd drive (I don't know why) and removed it.

When I reinstalled it, I couldn't read the image. I could eventually get it mounted, but when I tried to read something or copy it out, it would crash. A complete system crash and go into a reboot cycle twice before coming back to normal.

Then the image was corrupted and I had to manually mount it. It crashed again, and again, and again.

I was slowly getting data off it, but the constant crashing was concerning me and prior to going to bed, I felt it HAD to be the LB. I did not think it was the drive, although Disk Utility was reporting errors on it and not loading it, but then it would, and then it would crash.

Today, I have put the 2nd drive into a Mac Mini and I am in the process of copying out all the data without a problem. Slowly getting it all onto an external drive over USB2 :( But at least it's working! :D

Because of the crashing, I'm more inclined to believe it's the LB, but after reading these posts, I think I'll grab the connector first. I am yet to reinstall the superdrive and give it a go (I'm not too sure where it is).

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Hi Dave, how did you resolve this? any luck with the new connector? Did it work. Please advise as i am i the same boat.

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@kano - Did you review this? OWC Data Doubler. Is your system one of the Red noted units? If it is then your issue is the optical drives SATA port. It makes no difference who carrier you get as it's a limit of Apples logic board design. All you can do is put in a FIXED SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) speed drive. Trust me we've dealt with this issue multiple times here.

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Was just curious. I'm having this exact same problem. Ive had an owc data doubler in my computer for about two years. Approximately two months ago my hd stopped being detected. I tried putting in a new 1 tb hd, and while it registered at first, after putting my computer to sleep once it is no longer detectable.

The one major thing that makes my problem different from the ones outlined here is that the optibay still detects my optical drive when I put it back. I'm not exactly sure how to go about fixing this problem. Does anyone have any insight?

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There are a few different issues here: First have you updated the systems firmware? Follow this Apple TN: EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Macs. The next thing is making sure your HD SATA speed matches what your system can support. Review the spec sheet of the drive and review the red note in this: Special compatibility notes. Also auto SATA speed sense drives like Seagate's SSHD won't work correctly.

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