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Jay S, first try what Apple suggest:"
 
Quick Check
 
Symptom Quick Check
 
No Power / Dead Unit
 
• No power
 
• No image
 
• No startup chime
 
• No fan or hard drive spin
 
• No reset sound from optical drive
 
• No sleep LED activity
 
• No light if Caps Lock pressed
 
• Non-operational
 
1. Verify AC power presence with MagSafe LED indicating on or charge state.
 
2. Verify battery status as being at least partly charged, and charging with AC power.
 
3. Reset SMC.
 
4. If any of the previous steps have restored power, run Battery Diagnostic Utility.
 
Deep Dive
 
Check Result Action Code
 
1. Isolate peripherals as cause. Disconnect all peripherals and external devices and verify unit
 
starts.
 
Yes Suspect peripherals as cause.
 
Reconnect each one at a time, verifying unit operation as external device is reinstalled.
 
No Go to step 2.
 
2. Reset SMC and verify unit starts. (Alternative hardware SMC reset can be forced by disconnecting for 1 minute AC and battery to remove all system power.) Can system start up after SMC reset?
 
Yes Corrupt SMC state preventing power on. Issue resolved with SMC reset.
 
No Go to step 3.
 
3. Will system power up with battery only? Check battery level LED indicator for status of battery charge or battery use error. Inspect battery connector for burn marks or damaged pins if substituting a known-good battery to verify starting on battery.
 
Yes System can start up from known-good battery -- user battery possibly at fault or needs to be charged. Continue to verify user battery then AC adapter use and battery charging.
 
Go to step 4.
 
No System will not power using known-good battery only.
 
Go to step 5
 
4. User battery may be run down, or not recognized. Verify user battery in a known good system is recognized and accepting a charge. Confirm user battery is not consumed nor defective.
 
Yes Battery is recognized, charging and health is good. Return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Replace user battery for not charging or not recognized. User to purchase a replacement battery if consumed.
 
5. Inspect battery cable connection at logic board and reseat if necessary. Replace cable if found damage or burned. Can the system power on from a charged battery with battery cable inspections or replacement?
 
Yes Battery power restored, return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Logic board is expected to power on with battery only. Inspect and test power button.
 
Go to step 10.
 
6. Inspect MagSafe power adapter. Verify AC adapter is correct wattage, compatible with product and works on known-good computer.
 
Yes Power adapter is good.
 
Go to step 7.
 
No Release stuck pin or replace adapter due to wire damage, not working or burned pins.
 
7. Inspect MagSafe port on computer for physical damage, debris or metal fragments attracted to magnetic connector. Is MagSafe connector clean and free from defects?
 
Yes Go to step 8.
 
No Clean port assembly. Replace MagSafe board if necessary.
 
8. Verify adapter status LED turns on green then orange indicating power and battery charge in progress.
 
A green LED can indicate a full battery, removal of battery or battery not recognized.
 
Yes System starts and has power. MagSafe LED indicates power is flowing to logic board. Verify user battery will also charge. Review battery health to ensure user satisfaction.
 
No AC power is down or battery is not charging.
 
Go to step 9.
 
9. Verify power from adapter is present on logic board. Remove system battery, use AC power only. Reseat or test known-good MagSafe cable to achieve power for logic board.
 
Yes Logic board has power adapter energy to start system. MagSafe cable reseat or replacement resolved issue.
 
If still no system power on indications, go to step 10.
 
No AC adapter power not going to logic board power supplies. Replace logic board.
 
10. Verify that the conductive foam gasket placed over the camera cable connector does not short any pins of the logic board connector.
 
Yes Reseat foam gasket to prevent any contact with logic board connector pins.
 
No Go to step 11.
 
11. Test and inspect power button on top case. Stuck or open power button or keyboard disconnect can disable power on of system. Does system power on?
 
If power button does not work, locate Logic Board Power-On Pads (for Mid 2009 or for Mid
 
2010). Short pads to power up logic board. If power button is stuck, keyboard cable might need to be disconnected first before shorting pads.
 
Yes Power button functional, issue resolved.
 
Power button works when keyboard cable is reseated.
 
Power button appears to be stuck, had to remove keyboard cable to power on. Replace top case for stuck power button.
 
No No logic board power on when shorting power-on pads. Replace logic board."
 
so as you can see, something as simple as a bad keyboard cable can be the cause for it:-) so let us know what you find. Water damage is the hardest to fix and trouble shoot, so be prepared for some frustration....:-) Hope this helps, good luck
 
== Update ==
 
here are the images with the fuses marked. Also, take a couple good images of your DC-in board and post those. F6905 is underneath your Left speaker assembly. F6905 is a 6A FUSE and F7000 is a 7A Fuse
 
[image|376325|align=center]
 
[image|376324|align=center]
 
== Update ==
Check
Check
the voltage on your DC-in board. I marked the points to check. Negative on ground, positive on DC+ and your voltmeter on DC voltage of course. Let us know what you get.
Check
Check
the voltage on your DC-in board. I marked the points to check. Negative on ground, positive on DC+ and your voltmeter on DC voltage of course. Let us know what you get.
[image|376349|align=center]
 
== further update ==
check the voltage on these two points.
[image|376363|align=center]

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Edit by: oldturkey03 ,

Text:

Jay S, first try what Apple suggest:"
 
Quick Check
 
Symptom Quick Check
 
No Power / Dead Unit
 
• No power
 
• No image
 
• No startup chime
 
• No fan or hard drive spin
 
• No reset sound from optical drive
 
• No sleep LED activity
 
• No light if Caps Lock pressed
 
• Non-operational
 
1. Verify AC power presence with MagSafe LED indicating on or charge state.
 
2. Verify battery status as being at least partly charged, and charging with AC power.
 
3. Reset SMC.
 
4. If any of the previous steps have restored power, run Battery Diagnostic Utility.
 
Deep Dive
 
Check Result Action Code
 
1. Isolate peripherals as cause. Disconnect all peripherals and external devices and verify unit
 
starts.
 
Yes Suspect peripherals as cause.
 
Reconnect each one at a time, verifying unit operation as external device is reinstalled.
 
No Go to step 2.
 
2. Reset SMC and verify unit starts. (Alternative hardware SMC reset can be forced by disconnecting for 1 minute AC and battery to remove all system power.) Can system start up after SMC reset?
 
Yes Corrupt SMC state preventing power on. Issue resolved with SMC reset.
 
No Go to step 3.
 
3. Will system power up with battery only? Check battery level LED indicator for status of battery charge or battery use error. Inspect battery connector for burn marks or damaged pins if substituting a known-good battery to verify starting on battery.
 
Yes System can start up from known-good battery -- user battery possibly at fault or needs to be charged. Continue to verify user battery then AC adapter use and battery charging.
 
Go to step 4.
 
No System will not power using known-good battery only.
 
Go to step 5
 
4. User battery may be run down, or not recognized. Verify user battery in a known good system is recognized and accepting a charge. Confirm user battery is not consumed nor defective.
 
Yes Battery is recognized, charging and health is good. Return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Replace user battery for not charging or not recognized. User to purchase a replacement battery if consumed.
 
5. Inspect battery cable connection at logic board and reseat if necessary. Replace cable if found damage or burned. Can the system power on from a charged battery with battery cable inspections or replacement?
 
Yes Battery power restored, return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Logic board is expected to power on with battery only. Inspect and test power button.
 
Go to step 10.
 
6. Inspect MagSafe power adapter. Verify AC adapter is correct wattage, compatible with product and works on known-good computer.
 
Yes Power adapter is good.
 
Go to step 7.
 
No Release stuck pin or replace adapter due to wire damage, not working or burned pins.
 
7. Inspect MagSafe port on computer for physical damage, debris or metal fragments attracted to magnetic connector. Is MagSafe connector clean and free from defects?
 
Yes Go to step 8.
 
No Clean port assembly. Replace MagSafe board if necessary.
 
8. Verify adapter status LED turns on green then orange indicating power and battery charge in progress.
 
A green LED can indicate a full battery, removal of battery or battery not recognized.
 
Yes System starts and has power. MagSafe LED indicates power is flowing to logic board. Verify user battery will also charge. Review battery health to ensure user satisfaction.
 
No AC power is down or battery is not charging.
 
Go to step 9.
 
9. Verify power from adapter is present on logic board. Remove system battery, use AC power only. Reseat or test known-good MagSafe cable to achieve power for logic board.
 
Yes Logic board has power adapter energy to start system. MagSafe cable reseat or replacement resolved issue.
 
If still no system power on indications, go to step 10.
 
No AC adapter power not going to logic board power supplies. Replace logic board.
 
10. Verify that the conductive foam gasket placed over the camera cable connector does not short any pins of the logic board connector.
 
Yes Reseat foam gasket to prevent any contact with logic board connector pins.
 
No Go to step 11.
 
11. Test and inspect power button on top case. Stuck or open power button or keyboard disconnect can disable power on of system. Does system power on?
 
If power button does not work, locate Logic Board Power-On Pads (for Mid 2009 or for Mid
 
2010). Short pads to power up logic board. If power button is stuck, keyboard cable might need to be disconnected first before shorting pads.
 
Yes Power button functional, issue resolved.
 
Power button works when keyboard cable is reseated.
 
Power button appears to be stuck, had to remove keyboard cable to power on. Replace top case for stuck power button.
 
No No logic board power on when shorting power-on pads. Replace logic board."
 
so as you can see, something as simple as a bad keyboard cable can be the cause for it:-) so let us know what you find. Water damage is the hardest to fix and trouble shoot, so be prepared for some frustration....:-) Hope this helps, good luck
 
== Update ==
 
here are the images with the fuses marked. Also, take a couple good images of your DC-in board and post those. F6905 is underneath your Left speaker assembly. F6905 is a 6A FUSE and F7000 is a 7A Fuse
[image|376325][image|376324
[image|376325|align=center]

[image|376324|align=center]

== Update ==
Check the voltage on your DC-in board. I marked the points to check. Negative on ground, positive on DC+ and your voltmeter on DC voltage of course. Let us know what you get.
[image|376349|align=center
]
[image|376325][image|376324
[image|376325|align=center]

[image|376324|align=center]

== Update ==
Check the voltage on your DC-in board. I marked the points to check. Negative on ground, positive on DC+ and your voltmeter on DC voltage of course. Let us know what you get.
[image|376349|align=center
]

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Edit by: oldturkey03 ,

Text:

Jay S, first try what Apple suggest:"
 
Quick Check
 
Symptom Quick Check
 
No Power / Dead Unit
 
• No power
 
• No image
 
• No startup chime
 
• No fan or hard drive spin
 
• No reset sound from optical drive
 
• No sleep LED activity
 
• No light if Caps Lock pressed
 
• Non-operational
 
1. Verify AC power presence with MagSafe LED indicating on or charge state.
 
2. Verify battery status as being at least partly charged, and charging with AC power.
 
3. Reset SMC.
 
4. If any of the previous steps have restored power, run Battery Diagnostic Utility.
 
Deep Dive
 
Check Result Action Code
 
1. Isolate peripherals as cause. Disconnect all peripherals and external devices and verify unit
 
starts.
 
Yes Suspect peripherals as cause.
 
Reconnect each one at a time, verifying unit operation as external device is reinstalled.
 
No Go to step 2.
 
2. Reset SMC and verify unit starts. (Alternative hardware SMC reset can be forced by disconnecting for 1 minute AC and battery to remove all system power.) Can system start up after SMC reset?
 
Yes Corrupt SMC state preventing power on. Issue resolved with SMC reset.
 
No Go to step 3.
 
3. Will system power up with battery only? Check battery level LED indicator for status of battery charge or battery use error. Inspect battery connector for burn marks or damaged pins if substituting a known-good battery to verify starting on battery.
 
Yes System can start up from known-good battery -- user battery possibly at fault or needs to be charged. Continue to verify user battery then AC adapter use and battery charging.
 
Go to step 4.
 
No System will not power using known-good battery only.
 
Go to step 5
 
4. User battery may be run down, or not recognized. Verify user battery in a known good system is recognized and accepting a charge. Confirm user battery is not consumed nor defective.
 
Yes Battery is recognized, charging and health is good. Return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Replace user battery for not charging or not recognized. User to purchase a replacement battery if consumed.
 
5. Inspect battery cable connection at logic board and reseat if necessary. Replace cable if found damage or burned. Can the system power on from a charged battery with battery cable inspections or replacement?
 
Yes Battery power restored, return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.
 
Go to step 6.
 
No Logic board is expected to power on with battery only. Inspect and test power button.
 
Go to step 10.
 
6. Inspect MagSafe power adapter. Verify AC adapter is correct wattage, compatible with product and works on known-good computer.
 
Yes Power adapter is good.
 
Go to step 7.
 
No Release stuck pin or replace adapter due to wire damage, not working or burned pins.
 
7. Inspect MagSafe port on computer for physical damage, debris or metal fragments attracted to magnetic connector. Is MagSafe connector clean and free from defects?
 
Yes Go to step 8.
 
No Clean port assembly. Replace MagSafe board if necessary.
 
8. Verify adapter status LED turns on green then orange indicating power and battery charge in progress.
 
A green LED can indicate a full battery, removal of battery or battery not recognized.
 
Yes System starts and has power. MagSafe LED indicates power is flowing to logic board. Verify user battery will also charge. Review battery health to ensure user satisfaction.
 
No AC power is down or battery is not charging.
 
Go to step 9.
 
9. Verify power from adapter is present on logic board. Remove system battery, use AC power only. Reseat or test known-good MagSafe cable to achieve power for logic board.
 
Yes Logic board has power adapter energy to start system. MagSafe cable reseat or replacement resolved issue.
 
If still no system power on indications, go to step 10.
 
No AC adapter power not going to logic board power supplies. Replace logic board.
 
10. Verify that the conductive foam gasket placed over the camera cable connector does not short any pins of the logic board connector.
 
Yes Reseat foam gasket to prevent any contact with logic board connector pins.
 
No Go to step 11.
 
11. Test and inspect power button on top case. Stuck or open power button or keyboard disconnect can disable power on of system. Does system power on?
 
If power button does not work, locate Logic Board Power-On Pads (for Mid 2009 or for Mid
 
2010). Short pads to power up logic board. If power button is stuck, keyboard cable might need to be disconnected first before shorting pads.
 
Yes Power button functional, issue resolved.
 
Power button works when keyboard cable is reseated.
 
Power button appears to be stuck, had to remove keyboard cable to power on. Replace top case for stuck power button.
 
No No logic board power on when shorting power-on pads. Replace logic board."
 
so as you can see, soemthingsomething as simple as a bad keyboard cable can be the cause for it:-) so let us know what you find. Water damage is the hardest to fix and trouble shoot, so be prepared for some frustration....:-) Hope this helps, good luck

== Update ==
here are the images with the fuses marked. Also, take a couple good images of your DC-in board and post those. F6905 is underneath your Left speaker assembly. F6905 is a 6A FUSE and F7000 is a 7A Fuse
[image|376325][image|376324]
so as you can see, soemthingsomething as simple as a bad keyboard cable can be the cause for it:-) so let us know what you find. Water damage is the hardest to fix and trouble shoot, so be prepared for some frustration....:-) Hope this helps, good luck

== Update ==
here are the images with the fuses marked. Also, take a couple good images of your DC-in board and post those. F6905 is underneath your Left speaker assembly. F6905 is a 6A FUSE and F7000 is a 7A Fuse
[image|376325][image|376324]

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Original post by: oldturkey03 ,

Text:

Jay S, first try what Apple suggest:"

Quick Check

Symptom Quick Check

No Power / Dead Unit

• No power

• No image

• No startup chime

• No fan or hard drive spin

• No reset sound from optical drive

• No sleep LED activity

• No light if Caps Lock pressed

• Non-operational

1. Verify AC power presence with MagSafe LED indicating on or charge state.

2. Verify battery status as being at least partly charged, and charging with AC power.

3. Reset SMC.

4. If any of the previous steps have restored power, run Battery Diagnostic Utility.

Deep Dive

Check Result Action Code

1. Isolate peripherals as cause. Disconnect all peripherals and external devices and verify unit

starts.

Yes Suspect peripherals as cause.

Reconnect each one at a time, verifying unit operation as external device is reinstalled.

No Go to step 2.

2. Reset SMC and verify unit starts. (Alternative hardware SMC reset can be forced by disconnecting for 1 minute AC and battery to remove all system power.) Can system start up after SMC reset?

Yes Corrupt SMC state preventing power on. Issue resolved with SMC reset.

No Go to step 3.

3. Will system power up with battery only? Check battery level LED indicator for status of battery charge or battery use error. Inspect battery connector for burn marks or damaged pins if substituting a known-good battery to verify starting on battery.

Yes System can start up from known-good battery -- user battery possibly at fault or needs to be charged. Continue to verify user battery then AC adapter use and battery charging.

Go to step 4.

No System will not power using known-good battery only.

Go to step 5

4. User battery may be run down, or not recognized. Verify user battery in a known good system is recognized and accepting a charge. Confirm user battery is not consumed nor defective.

Yes Battery is recognized, charging and health is good. Return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.

Go to step 6.

No Replace user battery for not charging or not recognized. User to purchase a replacement battery if consumed.

5. Inspect battery cable connection at logic board and reseat if necessary. Replace cable if  found damage or burned. Can the system power on from a charged battery with battery cable inspections or replacement?

Yes Battery power restored, return to test unit with user battery and AC adapter power.

Go to step 6.

No Logic board is expected to power on with battery only. Inspect and test power button.

Go to step 10.

6. Inspect MagSafe power adapter. Verify AC adapter is correct wattage, compatible with  product and works on known-good computer.

Yes Power adapter is good.

Go to step 7.

No Release stuck pin or replace adapter due to wire damage, not working or burned pins.

7. Inspect MagSafe port on computer for physical damage, debris or metal fragments attracted to magnetic connector. Is MagSafe connector clean and free from defects?

Yes Go to step 8.

No Clean port assembly. Replace MagSafe board if necessary.

8. Verify adapter status LED turns on green then orange indicating power and battery charge in progress.

A green LED can indicate a full battery, removal of battery or battery not recognized.

Yes System starts and has power. MagSafe LED indicates power is flowing to logic board. Verify user battery will also charge. Review battery health to ensure user satisfaction.

No AC power is down or battery is not charging.

Go to step 9.

9. Verify power from adapter is present on logic board. Remove system battery, use AC  power only. Reseat or test known-good MagSafe cable to achieve power for logic board.

Yes Logic board has power adapter energy to start system. MagSafe cable reseat or replacement resolved issue.

If still no system power on indications, go to step 10.

No AC adapter power not going to logic board power supplies. Replace logic board.

10. Verify that the conductive foam gasket placed over the camera cable connector does not short any pins of the logic board connector.

Yes Reseat foam gasket to prevent any contact with logic board connector pins.

No Go to step 11.

11. Test and inspect power button on top case. Stuck or open power button or keyboard disconnect can disable power on of system. Does system power on?

If power button does not work, locate Logic Board Power-On Pads (for Mid 2009 or for Mid

2010). Short pads to power up logic board. If power button is stuck, keyboard cable might need to be disconnected first before shorting pads.

Yes Power button functional, issue resolved.

Power button works when keyboard cable is reseated.

Power button appears to be stuck, had to remove keyboard cable to power on. Replace top case for stuck power button.

No No logic board power on when shorting power-on pads. Replace logic board."

so as you can see, soemthing as simple as a bad keyboard cable can be the cause for it:-) so let us know what you find. Water damage is the hardest to fix and trouble shoot, so be prepared for some frustration....:-) Hope this helps, good luck

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