Quote from Bryandd:

Hi to lemerise you gave me some advise a few days ago about my ibook G4 and it seemed to work ok i was able to boot it up, and thought it was ok BUT

if i can expalin why i have a Mac it was bought for me by my son who lives in the states and it is used more or less just for web-cam sessions, i have some music and some photo's on it as well

after doing what you advised i was able to boot it up, but could not open any of the proga on it ie ipic's or ichat as it was not long out of warranty i rang apple care they said as it was a software prob they would look at it theey checked everything out said it was working fine and went through the reinstall software process but my son installed it all about 4 years ago and cannot remember what he used as the password we have gone through it over the past week all to no avail trying to get back to the original settings do you know any way to find out the original password

Bryan