Oh sorry, didn't see your thread here - I replied to the main thread instead...

There is a space between "/Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer" and "/System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg" and you entered it as a single command!

[quote|Rain]Oh sorry, didn't see your thread here - I replied to the main thread instead... There is a space between "/Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer" and "/System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg" and you entered it as a single command![/quote]

Disregard the above reply... I totally forgot that you said that you couldn't get into DU to format your disk... Well, enter these commands at the # prompt... if you need clarification on what the commands do, tell me. (Take note of spaces this time!)

umount -f /dev/disk0*

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk0

**hit control-C after 10 seconds or so**

diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ iBookHD APMFormat disk0

Then you can do "/Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg" and get a barebones, but bootable copy of Tiger installed on your iBook! :)

[quote|Rain]Disregard the above reply... I totally forgot that you said that you couldn't get into DU to format your disk... Well, enter these commands at the # prompt... if you need clarification on what the commands do, tell me. (Take note of spaces this time!) umount -f /dev/disk0* dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk0 **hit control-C after 10 seconds or so** diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ iBookHD APMFormat disk0 Then you can do "/Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg" and get a barebones, but bootable copy of Tiger installed on your iBook! :)[/quote]

ARRRRRGH!!! *bangs head* it is /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg instead of /System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg ! My bad, my bad...

[quote|Rain]ARRRRRGH!!! *bangs head* it is /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg instead of /System/Library/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg ! My bad, my bad...[/quote]

I understand what terminal is/does, but I've only used it once before and don't know anything about forming the commands.

I do have a firewire cable, my other computer is an iMac Intel Duo.

I don't have access to any non-Intel Macs

I thought I'd try installing the OS without reformatting the disk because I wasn't sure the reformat was necessary (and terminal scares me).

I entered the commands again, but I was paying more attention to the response this time.

I believe the issue may be with the front end of that command.

If I enter:

/Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg

I get the message:

-bash: /Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer: No such file or directory.

Since I don't know squat about "Terminal", and had nothing to lose, I figured I'd give the reformatting a shot anyway.

The reformat went fine until the end.

When I entered:

diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ iBookHD APMFormat disk0

I got the response:

Started erase on disk disk0

Creating Partition Map

Could not unmount disk for zeroing

Partitioning encountered error Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk0

This is why terminal scares me, I think I killed something.

I went back to the Disk Utility and selected restore using the install disk as a source and the untitled folder on the HD as a destination.

It appears to be copying the Install disk onto the HD, but I have no idea what will come of that.

Thanks

M

[quote|marcucco]I understand what terminal is/does, but I've only used it once before and don't know anything about forming the commands. I do have a firewire cable, my other computer is an iMac Intel Duo. I don't have access to any non-Intel Macs I thought I'd try installing the OS without reformatting the disk because I wasn't sure the reformat was necessary (and terminal scares me). I entered the commands again, but I was paying more attention to the response this time. I believe the issue may be with the front end of that command. If I enter: /Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg I get the message: -bash: /Applications/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer: No such file or directory. Since I don't know squat about "Terminal", and had nothing to lose, I figured I'd give the reformatting a shot anyway. The reformat went fine until the end. When I entered: diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ iBookHD APMFormat disk0 I got the response: Started erase on disk disk0 Creating Partition Map Could not unmount disk for zeroing Partitioning encountered error Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk0 This is why terminal scares me, I think I killed something. I went back to the Disk Utility and selected restore using the install disk as a source and the untitled folder on the HD as a destination. It appears to be copying the Install disk onto the HD, but I have no idea what will come of that. Thanks M[/quote]

Try /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer

[quote|Rain]Try /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer[/quote]

Those were the magic words.

Unfortunately, terminal gives me the message:

bind: Address already in use

A new installer window opens but the "Can not be installed" window pops up a second later.

I'm guessing I'd need to find a way to open terminal and enter the commands before the installer made up it's mind I was trying to do something sketchy.

Unless there's a keyboard command that will open terminal from the "choose a language" screen, I'm boned.

Thanks VERY much for all your time, I really appreciate the effort.

[quote|marcucco]Those were the magic words. Unfortunately, terminal gives me the message: bind: Address already in use A new installer window opens but the "Can not be installed" window pops up a second later. I'm guessing I'd need to find a way to open terminal and enter the commands before the installer made up it's mind I was trying to do something sketchy. Unless there's a keyboard command that will open terminal from the "choose a language" screen, I'm boned. Thanks VERY much for all your time, I really appreciate the effort.[/quote]

Try /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.pkg instead of .mpkg

[quote|Rain]Try /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.pkg instead of .mpkg[/quote]

I get the same message on terminal with .pkg as I did with .mpkg:

bind: Address already in use

The screen shows a window that says:

Open failed

Couldn't open "OSInstall.pkg".

in stead of the alert message you get when you use OSInstall.mpkg

"This software can not be installed on this computer."

I think the trick would be to find a way to open terminal at start up.

I'm guessing that the computer has already made up it's mind that it can't install the software and that's why terminal is giving the "already in use" message rather then "invalid .mpkg" or something like that.

I'd need it to get it to load the file before it has looked at the ID on the disk.

I'd love to find a way to do this, it's become a vendetta now.

But I was able to order a set of replacement disks from Apple for $35 with shipping just in case.

[quote|marcucco]I get the same message on terminal with .pkg as I did with .mpkg: bind: Address already in use The screen shows a window that says: Open failed Couldn't open "OSInstall.pkg". in stead of the alert message you get when you use OSInstall.mpkg "This software can not be installed on this computer." I think the trick would be to find a way to open terminal at start up. I'm guessing that the computer has already made up it's mind that it can't install the software and that's why terminal is giving the "already in use" message rather then "invalid .mpkg" or something like that. I'd need it to get it to load the file before it has looked at the ID on the disk. I'd love to find a way to do this, it's become a vendetta now. But I was able to order a set of replacement disks from Apple for $35 with shipping just in case.[/quote]