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Optibay Slot wont read hard drives
This is a long one, but here's the recap:
- Bought in 2010, removed SuperDrive, instead put in an Optibay Knock Off (let's call this OKO), and a OCZ Vertex 2.
- At this point, SSD is primary boot device, and the original 320GB SATA drive is in the original location, acting as my data drive. Pure Bliss for 5 months.
Then, one day starting my laptop gives me the dreaded Question Mark.
- Put everything back to stock config, brought to Apple, they deemed their original 320 drive as dead, replaced it with a new, and gave me the old 'dead' drive.
- Came home, put SSD and OKO back, system boots, but unresponsive. Desktop appears, but I tried clicking everywhere and nothing happens. For about 6-7 minutes, then all my clicks 'register' and my system works, but Disk Utility does not see my SSD.
- But nothing was wrong was with my SSD. Right? I take my firewire external and plug my SSD in, and I am able to boot from my SSD just fine. Weird. Then, I plug my data drive, that apple deemed as dead, and that works too via my external! This is getting interesting.
- So drives are ok, must be the OKO right? I order the real Optibay, and lo and behold, same issues. I tried using the real Optibay with both my SSD AND the 'dead' hard drive, (which works fine externally) and same issues. Desktop unresponsive
- If I take out the Optibay, all boots well with my stock 320 OSX installation.
Sooooo:
- It must be logic board on the Optical Drive slot thats haywire, or the connector that is bad. Right?
Apple says everything is fine, cause when the superdrive is there, there are no errors.
I guess the SATA connector part may be bad:
MacBook Pro 15" Unibody (Mid 2009/Mid 2010/Early...
will try and replace, but if it's not that - what is it?
Why would my OSX installation, on the stock 320 SATA drive freeze for so long after booting when there is something in the second slot?
What are the chances both Optibay and OKO are actually dead?
How do I prove that the second slot, where optical drive is bad, if Apple says they don't support external hardware?
MacBook Pro 15" Unibody (Mid 2009/Mid 2010/Early...
Connects SuperDrive to logic board — Currently out of stock.
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well, the problem got worse, the laptop now couldnt even read discs, and then it disappeared from the Sys config. I went to the Apple store, and finally they were able to test it and see the problem.
MacBook out for a logic board swap. I think this is it. Whew.
Thanks for your help, and this is an excellent site + great community. Apple products are amazing when they work, and when they don't, well, one is usually S.O.L. This site helps make it a bit easier
- S
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I'm having nearly the exact same issue. My logic board suffered some unfortunate liquid damage earlier this year (MBP wouldn't even boot). I found a guy on ebay who does logicboard repairs rather than replacements (saved me hundreds) and my computer worked fine for a couple months. I recently replaced the SuperDrive with a Kingston SSD and everything was working fine for a few weeks.
One day when I got home from work I got a kernel panic and my computer refused to boot. I reinstalled SL onto the 320GB HDD that came with the computer via firewire and Target Disk mode (I had converted it to a storage drive) but was unable to write to the SSD. I was able to recover data from the drive using DiskWarrior, but I could not write, erase or repartition the SSD. I tried to repair the SSD using Disk Utility several times, each time with "success" but I could not use the drive. After a day or two, the SSD stopped being recognized by the computer (not showing up in Disk Utility or System Profiler).
I removed the SSD from my MBP and put it into my hackintosh where it functioned normally. This obviously rules out drive failure. So I put the SuperDrive back into my MBP to test the SATA connection, and it too fails to be recognized by Disk Utility or System Profiler.
Now I am having the exact same issue as you. There is a problem with either my Super Drive cable (flex cable?) or my logic board itself. Since I've already had issues with this logic board (and that was the cause of your problem as well) it seems only reasonable that it's the culprit in my situation as well. Perhaps an important difference is that my computer continues to function normally when booted from the other internal drive regardless of whether the SSD is connected.
I think maybe I just melted a solder or something (or with a huge amount of luck, I just need to replace a cable). What are the odds of being able to repair my MBP without a full logic board replacement? It's already out of warranty (which was surely voided when the logic board was repaired the first time anyway).
I could probably send my computer back to the guy that fixed it the first time, but that cost several hundred dollars and shipping to Canada ain't cheap. I guess I technically don't NEED the other SATA port, but SSD's large enough to replace both drives are too expensive for my recent-college-graduate budget. :-(
-Eli
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Eerily similar problem here. Identical setup to the OP, except an older MB.
I have a Mid-2009 15"MBP. Swapped the optical drive for an OCZ Vertex 2 SSD and Optibay Knockoff two days ago. Worked great for about 12 hours before the system crashed and the computer became un-bootable.
-Took the system back apart, and nudged, unplugged, and plugged cables for a while to try to isolate the problem. Seems to be a physical problem - it would occasionally boot after disconnecting and reconnecting... but a tiny nudge would screw the whole thing up. I'm fairly sure the problem is where the logic board connects to the optical drive cable.
-SSD is still working in an enclosure. No such luck for the Optical Drive, which is now back in its proper place. It seeks on boot but isn't recognized by the OS. Yikes! Hoping the problem is with the cable, but like the OP I'm not terribly optimistic.
-Will be taking it to the Apple store soon... would rather not drop $30 on the cable if it's not necessarily the problem.
-Weird to have the same problem with the same SSD. Hope it's a coincidence...
Steven, what knockoff OptiBay are you using? Mine is the Nimitz model, available on ebay.
-Apple store and stomaching the logic board replacement if necessary is all I can think of now. Worth noting that this would be the second time the logic board has failed. Last time it was the actual HDD bay.
Anyone have other suggestions to test or repair it?
Thanks,
Ben
Hi Ben I dont remember which knockoff it was - it was about $25. I'd say get the real Optibay. Seems better quality, and the price difference is so negligible, that if that ends up preventing issues later it's well worth all that time you'll spend undoing/redoing configs to bring it in for repair. Also assuming you dont have any warranty time left. I dont have good advice unfortunately, you're problem sounds like the logic board. What about just using the SSD in the primary slot (where the stock drive came) and not using the 2nd drive? Not a great option - but def cheaper than a $800+ board replacement. That was going to be my last resort. Best of luck.
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I have this exact same issue with a mid 2009 MacBook Pro. I'm using an OWC data doubler. I think it's the data cable, but it sounds like it's actually a problem with the connector on the logic board. It probably becomes damaged when disconnected the first time. Oh well, I'm just going to get a mobile enclosure for my HD and deal with it for a year till I get a new machine.
+ very well stated question. It appears, at first, that you've done everything right. Will have to mull this one over a while as I have no answers yet. Just wanted you to know that you're not being ignored.
mayer,