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steinmb
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MacBook Pro no startup sound, and not able to start
My MBP A1260 just died, nothing special lead up to this. It have been trustfully been working for 2.5 years.
No startup sound or picture, though the superdrive does it regular startup thing, the fans start (normal speed) and the on/off light comes on when I power it on. This is what I have tried:
- Startup with external screen
- Disconnected all external devices
- Reset PRAM and SMC
- Power up with or without battery
- Startup without RAM and tried on by one of the ram chip's
- Opened it up and tried starting without:
- Hard drive
- Superdrive
- iSight camera
- panel/screen
- Disconnected-connected all accessible (from the "top) connectors
I even coneccted an older battery to check if the poweradaptor is able to charge it, and that looks OK.
Currently running out of ideas here, anyone? I'm I looking on a dead main board here?
Best regards Stein
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mayer
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I can't tell if you've done exactly this: remove the battery, disconnect the hard drive, connect the MagSafe, insert your system installation disk and try to start holding down the "C" key. Did you get anything? You've done a very good job of testing. Press the button on the battery to see if it is charged. Are you getting a light on the MagSafe?
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lemerise
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You did not specify if you tried to disconnect the top case and start the machine directly from the logic board. The top case could be the culprit in your case.
You could be right but Is the a way to do this? The on/off button and logic prints are located on the top case.
@lemerise: I have not found time to test the top case. I tried to take a short cut since I personally did not have time at the moment and dropped it off at a Apple retailer. I hoped they should tell me that is was the nvidia chip that died and replaced the main board. After a few weeks they sent me an email claiming it was the main board but not the nvidia that had died. They told me that they had tried booting up the computer with "minimum cables connected" If that also means that they disconnected the top case do I not know. I'm not sure if I trust them, and will do my own tests, removing the mb from the case and do what you normally do to test it.
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Gabriel
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The answer is none of these, really.
"In July 2008, NVIDIA publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect. At that same time, NVIDIA assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected. However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected. If the NVIDIA graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within four years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty."
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2377 <---click for more info
The problem is, the GPU gets so hot, it physically unsolders itself from the board. Luckily, Apple extended the warranty so you are eligible for a new one :)
hope this helps!!
@Score: Thanx for then link :) The nvidia bug, is what I personally think causes the problem, then computer died after been trancoding my DVD collection for a few days, and was nice and hot when I put it to sleep. When I woke it up, there was no external video and then it just died. Proving that this is the issue, have proved to be hard. At the workshop, they had a USB quicktest dongle, but I mean if the main board do not bootstrap, how can this tell then anything? If I look at the GPU pins through a microscope prehaps I'm able to tell if this is the case? I seem to remember there where some discussions about the method they used to solider the GPU to the board if I'm not mistaking.
+ Thanks for starting a new question.
mayer,
Hi mayer, thanks for answering :) Yes, the magsafe lights up as normal, and it charges the battery and my spare one as normal (checked the power bars). Holding C during startup give me nothing.
steinmb,
There's nothing to give me a clue. Outside of switching the logic board to another machine, I really have no idea of where to go.
mayer,
I'll currently running on my backup computer but I'll have another go with it as soon as I find the time or I'll drop it off at my local Apple shop, even just to get the diagnostic from them.
steinmb,
Very well stated question and troubleshooting . +
Majesty,
+ good thing you started your own question
oldturkey03,
SteinMB - bro, you are doing far too much on your own!!! Just call Apple! Hvis du vil ha teknisk support på telefon, ringer du 815 00 158 . (This is the # in Norway) Tell them that the nVidia GPU burned out and that it is covered under Apple's extended warranty program, and that it states they must replace it. They replaced mine for free! They tried to claim that my screen had water damage and that I would have to pay almost $1000. BULLSHIT. I called the tech out and asked how they tested it with a burned out GPU, and they started backpetaling. I told them I just wanted the logic board swapped out, and they said they "dont do partial repairs" and that I would have to take to my local Apple ASP, and I told them there is none for over 100 miles and that they should do it. Basically you have to play hardball. I eventually just asked them to send it back because I got sick of their bullshit, and when I got it back.. I realized they had sent it with a brand new LCD , bezel and mobo!! True story! Happened about 2 mo ago! You can get one too!
Gabriel ,
@steinmb: I just had the exact same experience with my MPB A1260, delivered it to Eplehuset here in Norway, and got the same answer as you: Change the logic board (at 10995 kr...). Even tho I also have a feeling it is the nVidia-chip. Not sure how thorough Eplehuset are with their tests..have you found out whats wrong with your machine?
Rune O,
Not yet. Not all hope is out. Thing I need to test in chronic order: * Make sure that it is not a problem with the top case. * Get a second review from Apple that this REALLY is not a nvidia problem (!=eplehuset) * Time to get drastic, and rebake the nvidia chip to the main board.
steinmb,
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