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iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Can you tell me what battery to buy

Wed, 08 May 2013 13:15:27 -0700

I want to replace the battery on my iPod MP000 Model MP103 product number PE436A. As long as I have it plugged in the wall works and as soon as I unplug it dead. I want to replace the battery but I'm not sure what battery to buy from ifixit.

Thank you

⟐ Commented May 8, 2013 at 1:15 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Camera shutter screen stays closed

Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:44:38 -0700

Hello,

I have an IPOD 4th gen and when opening the camera application, the shutter on the screen stays closed. Also, the screen seems to flicker a bit as if the app is trying to access the camera, but can't. So I replaced the rear-facing camera, and still no luck. Is it possible this is a software issue? Could the issue be with the front facing camera? Inquiring minds want to know.

⟐ Answered April 30, 2013 at 3:44 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Why does it show sad face apple/iPod/support? it wont charge

Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:36 -0700

first it shows the sad face apple/ipod/support then i plug it in to computer to see what happens then it shows the battery but not that it is charging i pick it up and move it around and then pops up sad face again usually i can hear or feel the hard drive but its silent what do i do now? is it just needing a new battery or is it completely shot?

⟐ Edited April 1, 2013 at 10:00 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Replacement Battery appears to be dead?

Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:13:23 -0700

I recently replaced my iPod battery and all was well for a couple of days. I then fully charged my battery and let it run down. I recharged it again and it will no longer charge up at all.

I tried to do a firmware restore as advised on this site but when I plugged it into iTunes it wasn't recognised and it displays this picture of what looks like a broken battery.

http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u451...

Please help, have I fitted a defective battery?

⟐ Answer edited March 2, 2013 at 9:13 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Icon keeps appearing? Possibly dead battery?

Sat, 02 Mar 2013 05:25:48 -0700

I bought this ipod on ebay for 25 dollars as a back up to my first generation ipod. The seller informed me of this problem. So I got it today, and basically no matter what I do, it is showing an icon with an adapter and a power outlet. I tried plugging it into the mac and the PC. No change. Is this a dead battery? I assuming it isn't the hard drive? If so does this website sell the battery so that I can replace it?

⟐ Answered March 2, 2013 at 5:25 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: iPod freezes when adding music from iTunes.

Sat, 09 Feb 2013 01:12:30 -0700

I've had this iPod for under A year and it has worked fine until recently. First it started freezing during songs, so I would perform a hard reset and it would flash the apple logo and then show me the sad iPod picture with the exclamation mark, I would set it aside for a moment and reset it again and it would play fine after that. This started happening more frequently and had the added effect of skipping certain songs like a scratched up cd, or strait not playing songs like input an unsupported file type on it, so I decided to preform a factory reset. It seems to work flawlessly now with the exception that when I try to reload it with music, it will add like maybe one or two songs and my device freezes up. The songs it adds will work fine but it refuses to let me add anymore music. It says something about how iTunes can't find the software on my iPod needed to sync, I'm not at my computer at this time but that it pretty close. I have preformed the diagnostic by pressing the select and left buttons, ran an hd scan and it says "staring scan..." For a bit and then just resets, reset the ipod, restored the ipod, formatted the ipod and then restored I again all to the same conclusion.

⟐ Commented February 9, 2013 at 1:12 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Logic board shorter screw goes where?

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:41:14 -0700

After removing the logic board screws to lift the board a bit to lever off the stuck-on battery I noticed that one of the screws was shorter than all of the others, but it was not obvious which of the screw holes it came from. Reassembled with a new battery and the screws inserted at random everything works so far. Was I lucky or did it not matter?

⟐ Answered January 16, 2013 at 6:41 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Will not reset; click wheel unresponsive

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:32:36 -0700

click wheel not working - unresponsive; cannot get apple logog when trying to reset - please advise ASAP

⟐ Commented December 12, 2012 at 4:32 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: I replaced iPod battery but why wont it stay powered up?

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:45:30 -0700

I ordered ipod replacement battery. I followed directions and installed battery into ipod. I noticed when I compared both batteries that the model numbers were different and the coupling cables were on opposite ends. I reversed new battery with label side down and reattached the cables. I snapped the case back together and attempted to charge ipod using the belkin ac adaptor 2.0 USB cable. Ipod powered up and the interneal circuitry on the hard drive was working. When I attempted to attach the USB to my computer to troubleshoot whether it would be recognized on the Apple itunes website it would not link it up. I disconnected from my computer and turned ipod on. It had about a 25% charge and actually booted up to the start menu. I went to music to see if it would play, it did this but then the ipod froze and the backlight stayed on. Does anyone know if this is a motherboard problem and I have "fried" the ipod? If so, I now have an expensive paperweight. Thanking you in advance.

⟐ Edited December 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Hard drive ribbon - replacing when connector is broken

Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:24:18 -0700

How is the hard drive ribbon connector attached to the logic board on a 4th gen 20gb ipod?

When releasing the tape over the connector it broke on me.

Would it be possible to use an adhesive on the ribbon cable to secure it to the logic board? Or can I buy a new connector and how would I secure it to the logic board?

Thanks!

⟐ Answered November 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: iPod only shows power adapter being plugged in to wall outlet?

Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:38:54 -0700

My iPod will not do any thing, when charge/sync cord is hooked up it will only show a power adapter being plugged into a wall outlet. I cannot get the click wheel to do anything, and when plugged into my PC it does not recognize that I have it hooked up. I have tried changing cords but still no luck. any sugesstions

Update

I have done all of the suggestions and still my 20GB Classic will not go and I have the "power adapter plugging into the wall" sign showing..help this iPod was for grand daughter for xmas..her first.

⟐ Answer deleted November 7, 2012 at 6:38 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: sad iPod when pluged into power supply

Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:06:16 -0700

this problem started when the battery ran down. i had it with me in my log truck at work. brought it home to charge it up and when pluged in i get the apple logo to appear then the sad iPod appears then it has the battery symbol appear. I changed the battery and now the apple logo appears then the sad iPod but no battery symbol.and it just keeps doing that over and over. can any tell me do i need a new mother board or hard drive? I don't want to buy parts I don't need is there a test i can perform?

⟐ Answer accepted September 15, 2012 at 9:06 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Why does a sad face with online spport come on

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:53:05 -0700

Why does a sad face with online support come on when i try to power on

⟐ Answer deleted September 7, 2012 at 6:53 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: FireWire connector iPod classic cable. Does anyone have a FireWire?

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:48:50 -0700

I need a FireWire connector.

What does a FireWire connector look like?

Does the iphone have a FireWire connector that will work with my ipod classic?

Does anyone have a FireWire connector?

Please help me out.

⟐ Answered September 6, 2012 at 3:48 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Replaced battery, now won't turn on or charge.

Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:33:12 -0700

I replaced the battery on my hp 4th Gen ipod, and now it won't charge, or turn on at all. I don't think that pulled the connector away from the logic board, but I'm not sure why its not working.

⟐ Answer edited September 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Battery will not charge, what is the problem?

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:44:00 -0700

Just replaced battery ( thinking this was the problem ) but no success, so, replaced hard drive as well in my iPod classic 20GB. Now it won't start up or charge at all, plugged it in to my PC and it was recognized said to restore which i did, was then asked to plug in to charger to finish restore but nothing happens when i do this. Anyone got any ideas what the problem is ?

⟐ Commented August 31, 2012 at 3:44 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Connector cable harddrive to motherbord

Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:08:10 -0700

I have a question i replaced the battery of my ipod correctly but no i can't reinstall the cable of the harddrive to the motherbord i got the next pics of it

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829...

how can i repair this?

⟐ Answer edited August 6, 2012 at 11:08 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Power/Boot on Hold- OFF Hold No Power

Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:15:31 -0700

When I place the iPod on hold it will boot and I will have the entrance menu but when I take it off hold the power shuts off.

⟐ Answer accepted August 6, 2012 at 10:15 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: need to get a battery for my dad's iPod

Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:58:18 -0700

my dad;s iPod needs a battery for his iPod. The Serial number is 4J528K2RTDS or 5 at the end

⟐ Answered July 30, 2012 at 7:58 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: will not pass logo displays go to support

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:42:23 -0700

I understand. if u hook your ipod to a different. coumpter this happen s. how do I repair

⟐ Answered June 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Makes noise doesn't repond

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:56:01 -0700

I have a 4th generation ipod w/photo. It stopped working and gave me the sad face. I have replaced the battery, hard drive and finally the logic board. When I hook it up to the power charger it makes noise as though it were trying to work but it does nothing else. If I've essentially rebuilt this thing why is it still not working? Thanks in advance

⟐ Commented June 15, 2012 at 5:56 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: shows a sad face when turned on

Wed, 30 May 2012 20:12:20 -0700

my ipod 20 gb old version shows a sad face when turned on

⟐ Answered May 30, 2012 at 8:12 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Won't restart after recharging, image sends me to Apple support

Wed, 02 May 2012 16:50:38 -0700

I haven't used this in several years; I toggled the on/off switch, then held down both center white button and top Menu during charge; a weird charging icon came up, then a small internet link to Apple iPod support, which told me nothing for my situation. Any ideas?

⟐ Answer accepted May 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: What happes when you unplug an iPod during sync?

Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:30:35 -0700

It was unplugged while syncing a podcast and now it will not power up and it is not recognized by windows or itunes

⟐ Answered April 26, 2012 at 7:30 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: iPod restore won't complete

Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:43:56 -0700

My 4th generation 30gb ipod shows an icon to plug into the wall after I did a restore from iTunes and I plugged into a wall charger that is not the firewire charger now the restore won't complete. I have 4 ipods that I replaced the batteries, all show the plugin icon.

The charger I used always charged the batteies before.

Will getting a Apple firewire wall charger cure this problem? Please help, I have four paper weights that shouldn't be.

⟐ Commented April 22, 2012 at 8:43 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Failed restore. Tried plugging into wall outlet but still won't work.

Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:43:59 -0700

iPod 60GB "photo" (1st gen to have color display, from 2005).

Was still running strong, but had gotten cluttered with duplicates, had no room to add new music.

So, I tried to do a "Reset/Restore" in iTunes in order to clean it up and replace music I didn't use much with new stuff. I'm using a pretty recent version of iTunes on a MacBook that I bought new about 15-18 months ago.

Went OK until it said that to complete the reset, I had to disconnect from the computer and plug the iPod into the wall charger. I don't have the original wall adapter from 2005, but I have a combo car/wall charger as well as my Kindle USB/Wall plug-in. I've used 2 different USB/iPod cables with these (one from an iPod nano and one an aftermarket type that came with the car/wall combo charger).

Still the iPod does NOTHING but display the "adapter plugging into wall" icon. I've also plugged the iPod into my MacBook and into a Windows machine, and neither one recognizes that anything at all has been plugged in.

Is there any way to at least force the iPod/MacBook combo to recognize that a device has been plugged in? Or is there a specific type of wall adapter/USB cable that this type of iPod will acknowledge so the #@%! thing will go to the next phase of the 'reset/restore'?

Thanks in advance!

⟐ Answer deleted April 21, 2012 at 8:43 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Folder with! icon, cannot reset or restore in iTunes or Windows

Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:31:25 -0700

When I turn on the iPod, I have the Folder icon. I can hear the hard drive spin up smoothly for a second or two then it goes silent. When connected to the PC the iPod screen shows connected for a split second then immediately goes to the OK to Disconnect but iTunes never recognizes it. When not connected to a PC the apple logo comes up then it just goes to the folder icon for a few seconds then the screen goes blank. I can see the battery icon when connected to the PC and it is fully charged.

When I try connecting it to my PC to Restore, it is not recognized in iTunes or PC and sometimes I get a message on my PC saying that the USB attachment ( i.e. iPod) is not recognized and Windows 7 Portable Devices WPD Filesystem Volume Driver portable device cannot be started. Other times when the iPod is connected to the PC there are no USB connection errors and the Windows 7 Portable Devices show a volume E:\ but the volume is not readable by Windows but still no recognition in iTunes.

I have tried different usb ports and a firewire connection to no avail.What could be causing this? Is it the logic board? Hard drive? Something else? Any solutions or suggestions to remedy this would be appreciated.

⟐ Commented April 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Shows a sad face icon and wont turn on.

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:34:05 -0700

I was listening to my iPod classic in the car and picked a song and it crashed. Ironically it was Sweet Dreams. But anyways now it shows a sad face icon. I tried resetting it dozens of times and it makes this annoying weird sound and keeps on resetting and resetting even when I don't press a button. I'm selling it on eBay. I hope to fix it by tommorow but I'm not sure exactly how to fix it. HELP PLEASE!!!

⟐ Answered March 26, 2012 at 11:34 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: 20GB logic board for 40Gb iPod?

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:03:35 -0700

Is the logic board HD size related? Just replaced battery after 6 years. Does not show up in iTunes. Overnight charge results in 1/4 charged indication. Suspect I have a bad logic board. 20GB Logic boards are available...how does the board relate to HDD size, or is that a misnomer?

⟐ Answered February 13, 2012 at 9:03 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: How do I get it to unfreeze?

Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:36:23 -0700

When to play first song, it din't start and has been frozen since I pressed play to hear that song. what do I do now?

⟐ Answer edited January 21, 2012 at 8:36 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: How much is it to change the glass cover

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 04:12:01 -0700

The glass screen broke on the ipod 4th generation

⟐ Answered December 22, 2011 at 4:12 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: What does the wall plugin mean

Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:49:38 -0700

shows a plug and a wall outlet on screen

⟐ Commented December 15, 2011 at 5:49 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Will a ZIF-to-pins adapter fit in an iPod?

Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:25:28 -0700

Rather than buy a new iPod Classic, I'd like to resuscitate my old iPod Photo, which has a dead hard drive, with a higher-capacity ZIF drive. I've found an adapter that should do the trick, whose description even mentions the iPod (in broken English), but looking at the iFixit guide for HDD replacement, I can see that things are pretty tight in there. Here is a close-up of the adapter board:

(Click to enlarge. Remember that it uses a slim ribbon cable, pictured at the link above, as well.)

It's possible that if it works at all, it would only work to put a 5mm-thick ZIF drive into one of the thicker, higher-capacity iPod models that were made for 8mm-thick drives, which could leave some room for the adapter. Or it could also work for the thinner models (like I have), or it could be there's no way it would fit in either case. Can anyone who is very familiar with these HDD replacements say with certainty whether this would fit, for either the thinner or the thicker iPod models?

⟐ Answer edited November 8, 2011 at 11:25 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: im having trouble restoring my iPod classic.

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:54:18 -0700

my ipod is a 4th generation (photo) model. i am trying to restore the ipod, but it told me to hook it up to a regular power outlet after it "restored" it on the computer. now ive checked on apples site, ive looked around online, but no one seems to know how long it has to stay on the ac charger or if thats what your really supposed to do. so i was just woundering if this site could tell me or help me find out, thanks for your time!

⟐ Commented October 31, 2011 at 5:54 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: interface port on iPod

Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:40:39 -0700

My friend leaves his ipod classic plugged into his stereo in his truck at all times. It has been bumped a few times and the cable no longer makes a good connection all the time. Is there a way to reinforce the port on the logic port so it will not fail?

⟐ Edited October 19, 2011 at 9:40 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Is it possible to repair middle button operation?

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:12:34 -0700

The middle button of the click whee is not responding. Is it possible to repair it without replacing the entire front plate?

⟐ Commented September 16, 2011 at 8:12 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: It froze while playing and now it won't even turn on.

Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:09:14 -0700

My 4th generation IPOD froze while it was playing. Now that the battery died it won't charge, turn on, or anything. How can I fix this?

⟐ Answered August 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Can I put a 160GB HD in my 4th gen iPod Photo?

Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:24:38 -0700

I think my short descriptive question says it all!

I have an iPod Classic 4th Gen 60GB and I would like to put a 160 GB HD in.

Question is, is that doable?!

So far as I can tell, the Samsung HS161JQ 160GB Hard Drive for iPod Classic fits the bill - but - would like to be sure before I order.

⟐ Commented July 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: HP iPod identity generation

Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:00:38 -0700

I have a non-functioning HP MP102 PE435A IPOD.

What generation is she?

What repair guide do I follow? So far I have removed the Toshiba MK 2004GAL HD, but haven't figured out how to check it. An external case is on order.

⟐ Answer deleted July 20, 2011 at 8:00 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Click Wheel not responding!

Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:58:39 -0700

I have a fourth generation Ipod with the monochrome display. My wheel will scroll, but all of my buttons (MENU, NEXT/PREV, PLAY/PAUSE) act as if I just pressed the select (center) button.

What do I do???

⟐ Answered July 20, 2011 at 7:58 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Can't hook up to Itunes

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:45:34 -0700

I just received my iPod back from you and everything works fine except when I plug it into my computer it won't hook up to Itunes. I get a message that says " A iPod has been detected but it could not be identified properly, please disconnect and reconnect the iPod and try again" However that doesn't work. What do I do? Thank you

⟐ Commented July 12, 2011 at 7:45 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: click wheel does not work

Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:45:28 -0700

Click wheel does not work, the iPod plays fine, connects to computer fine.

⟐ Answered July 7, 2011 at 5:45 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: problem opening case, top to side gap

Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:51:38 -0700

HI,

I've read the guide several times on opening the case, and I can get the larger tool into the top and slide it from side to side, but when I get to the edge/corner to get the gap on the side, the tool either slides out or there is no gap open on the side. Any other ideas?

⟐ Answered July 6, 2011 at 7:51 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Display is completely dead

Tue, 21 Jun 2011 00:53:44 -0700

My Ipod photo will not power up. Nothing appears on the screen. I have tried to connect it with itunes, and the computer will recognize it as a device and it will appear to synch, but a error message will appear stating that could not synch. I have tried rebooting it manually (center button and menu depressed at same time), but nothing happens. The screen shows NOTHING. Thinking it was a dead battery, I took the unit appart and checked the battery. The battery is showing 4.1 volts on both leads. Any suggestions.

⟐ Commented June 21, 2011 at 12:53 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: New battery- charges but still not recognised on Itunes?

Mon, 30 May 2011 19:32:26 -0700

I have tried everything!

I fitted a new battery it now charges but it still isnt recognised on itunes or on the computer at all?! However i do not have a wall charger only the USB (which worked fine for my 5th gen)- Also although it says the battery is charging it stops occasionally in which i then have to reset the ipod to get it to charge again.

I am no good at fixing ipods please help!

⟐ Commented May 30, 2011 at 7:32 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: My iPod wount turn on

Sun, 29 May 2011 20:02:32 -0700

How do i make it turn on i have not used it for four months ,tried charging it now what is next

⟐ Answered May 29, 2011 at 8:02 pm -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Why doesn't it work when unplugged?

Tue, 10 May 2011 10:59:32 -0700

It works when plugged into pc. It shows a full charge but doesn't turn on when unplugged. What is wrong? How can I fix it?

⟐ Answered May 10, 2011 at 10:59 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: U2 iPod repair upgrade

Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:30:17 -0700

I have a 20GB U2 iPod that seems to have a bad hard drive. Can I repair it myself and upgrade to a 30GB drive at the same time?

⟐ Commented April 30, 2011 at 3:30 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: Logic Board damage due to forcible Rear Panel removal.

Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:30:09 -0700

You know how your supposed to GENTLY remove the rear panel, swing it over, and THEN remove the socket connecting the headphone jack board and the logic board?

My friend didn't do that.

When he removed the rear panel, he took the socket along with the connector.

I'm looking at that socket on a good iPod. My eyes hurt because the pins are so small, but I'd like to see if I can perform some surface mount repair on it.

I haven't seen the actual damage yet. On pure speculation, I was thinking of taking a blob of silver solder to each side of the socket, and hope the solder wick works well enough to wick any bridging.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for reading!

⟐ Answered April 13, 2011 at 11:30 am -0700

iPod 4th Generation or Photo: The clicker wont work?

Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:07:30 -0700

My Ipod that I bought the clicker on it doesn't seem to work. I set it back to factory settings and now its stuck on where it asks about the language type. And I cant get out of it I cant move the selection up or down so I think its the click but not sure.

Whats the problem?

⟐ Edited April 5, 2011 at 1:07 pm -0700